Welcome @sepruko ,
Yes, I use artix with Xfce. It is trouble-free for me. I dont use sound though.
Regards
Neville
Welcome @sepruko ,
Yes, I use artix with Xfce. It is trouble-free for me. I dont use sound though.
Regards
Neville
Not just Red Hat (which is now part of IBM) - but Canonical too - and - the Debian team / org…
SystemD is the defacto standard out there in enterprises… Those “shops” not running some Red Hat derived distro (Fedora is sorta/kinda “pre-RHEL” for beta-testing) - like Oracle, Amazon and Azure, will probably be running Ubuntu server, or a few rare “edge” cases with plain Debian (pretty much 100% SystemD from Stretch (9) onwards…
Even before Oracle bought out Sun Microsystems in 2009, Solaris UNIX was headed to something like SystemD - called “SMF” “Service Management Facility” - the defacto init system on Solaris 11… On Solaris 10 you could still do some things with SystemV init - but you needed to understand smf to get vendor support - with commands like “svcs list” or “svcadm”
Last time I looked at IBM’s own UNIX, AIX, 12-15 years ago - some of the init stuff was still kinda like on BSD with RC scripts - no idea if that’s still the case…
It can change quite rapidly.c Look at how quickly people adopt new phones.
I dont care what enterprise does, but I would like to see home computing do something more suitable.
What worries me is that systemd is starting to interfere with what developers can do with other parts of Linux.
Vast corporate entities move an order of magnitude more slowly than the “market”…
And I have hideous legacy “end of life” systems I still have to support running RHEL4 or 5 and cringe when I realise there’s no “service or systemctl” - just shonky /etc/rc.3/ start and kill scripts…
You probably never worked in mult-vendor multi-customer environments before…
“systemd” solved a problem…
I’ve worked on customer servers where some cowboy answer to init was write a shell script that didn’t need parameters (i.e. no “stop” or “start”) it just ran and they linked to it in /etc/init.d/ from rc3.d and had a start script - but - never bothered (because they were a cowboy) to write a kill script (or create a link to /etc/rc3,d/k23kill-It)…
SystemD did do some good things… but I agree on my home system it’s overkill…
But it’s so universal today - you can write an ansible playbook that can do the same thing - consistently - across a farm of 300 servers…
Yeah. CSIRO was diferent … very progressive … wanted the latest and best performing hardware and software… because numerical computing needed it.
All these corporate systems do is shuffle accounting data around … it is a trivial amount of work for a computer . The complications are all to do with access and security. No wonder they stick with something that works.
You are basically saying that systemd solved a problem by stopping idiots from doing half baked solutions with sysvinit. I can appreciate that. It does not stop us from moving on to something better. Both S6 and dinit are far better init systems than èither systemd or sysvinit.
I did a short term (months) contract for the Bureau of Meteorolgy in 2017- some stuff was legacy monolithic - but the UNIX team were actually “agile” (I hate that term - most corporates that spout that are anything but agile - they’re lethargically inclined to do the very least)…
One of the few commonwealth departments that offered Linux on the desktop - you could use an IT “sanctioned” RHEL desktop - which I did for the first fortnight - but got offered a beefy workstation with an NVidia GPU (not a gaming GPU - a Quaddro “workstation” GPU) running a fairly “bleeding edge” version of Fedora - it was great!
It was probably 'cause BoM have scientists… some of whom probably end up in IT… So much in OpenSource and Linux, has been done when scientists stopped “sciencing” and start ed “IT-ing”
- in the 2010’s one of the key kernel developers was an anaesthetist at a Melbourne hospital…
I doubt the Commonwealth Dept of Finance, or the Tax Office, or CentreLink (mostly privatized and/or farmed out to corporate leaches like KPMG and PWC) would be so accomodating…
Including the original Unix developers at AT&T
I spent a lifetime flipflopping betwen science and computing.
and Tim Berners-Lee…
Mr Intrrnet !