Are you armed? Argh!

Forgot about that. Seems to be more useful than the average Rpi. Maybe that is because you set it up better.

Yes a desktop is an overkill for daily browsing.
But not a workstation or a games machine.

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It’s ARM too.
Just made by Qualcomm.

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That may be changing though.
Maybe I’d need to rethink my statement?

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Thanks did not think about that

More powerful maybe - but I’ve tried a bunch of different ARM SBC (single board computer) and Pi was the most useful because of the outstanding support from the vendor… (vs Pine64, OrangePi, BananaPi, CHIP). To be fair - I haven’t tried ODroid - but you simply, in my experience, cannot beat the out of the box support you get with Raspbian on Pi Foundation hardware…

One thing I forgot to mention was ChromeBook… I just fired up my deceased sister’s Lenovo Chromebook first time in months… Some Chromebooks are x86 - some are ARM… This one’s ARM based :

x@penguin:~$ neofetch
       _,met$$$$$gg.          x@penguin 
    ,g$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$P.       --------- 
  ,g$$P"     """Y$$.".        OS: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm) aarch64 
 ,$$P'              `$$$.     Kernel: 6.6.99-09000-gd3ae1caecf39 
',$$P       ,ggs.     `$$b:   Uptime: 21 mins 
`d$$'     ,$P"'   .    $$$    Packages: 624 (dpkg) 
 $$P      d$'     ,    $$P    Shell: bash 5.2.15 
 $$:      $$.   -    ,d$$'    Theme: CrosAdapta [GTK2/3] 
 $$;      Y$b._   _,d$P'      Icons: Adwaita [GTK2/3] 
 Y$$.    `.`"Y$$$$P"'         Terminal: /dev/pts/4 
 `$$b      "-.__              CPU: (8) 
  `Y$$                        GPU: 00:01.0 Red Hat, Inc. Device 107f 
   `Y$$.                      Memory: 98MiB / 2762MiB 
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That ā€œAdwaitaā€ stuff is 'cause it’s a local gnome-terminal window ssh session to the Crostini Linux environment… Chromebook, like Android, boots off a Linux kernel… Chromebook is a bit more flexible than Android, but it’s still not a full blown Linux DE… And Crostini runs in a container - it’s not the actual kernel that it booted - hence why the GPU is ā€œvirtualā€ from Red Hat… I’m not running any Linux GUI apps - but - that’s a full(ish) Debian environment and I can install software using apt…

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Arm is evolving rapidly.
I just thought we could all do with a sense of where its frontier is today.

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The most outstanding thing about ARM on RPi is that it’s almost ā€œnakedā€ Debian stuff that that’s still not x86_64…

The Pi Foundation ensures mainstream armhf/arm7l (32 bit) and aarch64/arm64) stuff goes back into the Debian source tree…

NVidia want everyone to use ā€œTegraā€ - but I think they’ve maybe kinda failed… And they hide proprietary stuff behind that… I could be ignorant - but I’m sure whatever NVidia add to ARM via ā€œTegraā€ is proprietary…

In other news - I’m finally reading Hemingway (Earnest) : i.e ā€œFor Whom the Bell Tollsā€ā€¦ Eighty years since - has not made it less relevant…

Hemingway? the amazing gift of writing more, in less words, than my ability to process what he’s writing… His writing adheres to ā€œKISSā€ and I love that..

Armed? Hemingway almost never went anywhere without a weapon… Even if it was only his biro or his typewriter…

And yeah - Hemingway was deeply flawed - but so are we all… and quite probably the machines we design :smiley:

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I have read it. Seems to say that the Spanish Civil War was pointless.
I felt after reading it , that I had been manipulated by his writing style.
Same feeling after ā€œOld man and the seaā€.
It is like the way TV news programs tell you something interesting is coming, then delay it till the end of the program.

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Are not all wars!!! Watched the Hiroshima documentary, last night, sad, as to what my country, had to do or did, just to end a war, and yet there are still, some in this world, that thinks a nuclear war is survivable!! I guess that depends on how one defines ā€œsurvivingā€!!!

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That coming from an ex military person is significant.

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It’s possible to survive a nuclear war, but you’d need to be in a country which is not an interesting target AND not able to participate.

Ireland, Ecuador, New Zealand, are among the countries which will not be nuked.

Ireland has to ask permission from the UN to participate in any war..

Ecuador is basically a self-supporting agracultural nation. Yes, they have oil, but not enough to be of interest.

New Zealand is so remote it’s of interest to nobody.

Now, Ireland is not really good to be in, because of the prevailing winds and all combatants being in the Northern hemisphere. Basically, anything North of the equator will be irradiated wasteland. South of the equator it’s more likely you’ll survive. That being said: Congo (oil), Brazil (BRICS), and South Africa (minerals, BRICS) will be targets as well, as will Indonesia (just look at a map for why).

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Antarctica. The climate may be a problem after a nuclear winter.

I imagine the 2 pƓles north and South would give the same problem of climate.

If we just agree on one place (bradford) would that make it easy for the war people…

Why Bradford. ?
Is it no longer the centre of the textile industry.?

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Our only hope is that human’s will never go to that extreme, but I would not doubt it ever happening!!

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First answer why not.

Second i was a student at the uni and many years later went back to teach and gained many others qualifications.

Yes former wool city but no longer

More important I was going to say lancashire but no one would miss it !

You might have missed lancashire bombers when they were needed.

Thd thing is, you cant contain nuclear to one site. One bomb exploded anywhere eventually spreads everywhere thru the atmosphere.
That is why they halted nuclear testing.

I had a uncle who was on the boat when they tester one of the first atomic bombs they were sent to watch the effect. Just before it went off the sailors were all told to turn around to protect their eyesight but remain on deck. Many years later he developed lump all over his body. But he went on to a good age.

On the lancashire joke, the war of the roses still goes on but now only in cricket.

Lancaster - not Lancashire… Sorry - the Avro Lancaster bomber - as used by the famous ā€œdambustersā€ (but I think it didn’t go as planned)…

It’s my favourite bomber plane… Sure the Boeing B19 and 24 (or whatever) were more sophisticated (they had autopilot!) and could travel further with a greater payload… But I love the Lancaster…

Here’s one with RAAF (Australian) decals…

I had a model one from Airfix when I was a kiddy (11 or 12?)…


When I first saw this topic - I thought it was going to be about ARM computers / CPU / architecture…

Oh well…

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not got much knowledge of areoplanes except as a passenger, but the one I am very glad to see dropping bombs… is the one used by the firefighters. I think they are called canadair ?

We were on a beach in majorca 2 years back and there was a wildfire a few km away. The plane used was picking up water just off short on our beach then dropping it on the fire. One hell of a noise but really impressive to see.

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