France goes all open source this year!

From what I read below, it looks like it will be free. It said “anyone”.

"Euro-Office’s 1.0 release, available June 9 for anyone to download from the project’s public GitHub repositories, will come with ready‑to‑use web editors for documents, spreadsheets, and presentations that support real‑time collaboration. "

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Since it’s web-based, I may hold off on checking it out until I have a reason to collaborate on something because I prefer locally installed and executed editors when I can get them. That way, they’re available, even if my Internet goes down (which doesn’t happen much or for long any more, but I can remember the time when it was far less reliable).

Ernie

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I wondev why they decided on that?
Is there some misconception among users that collaboration requires web tools?
Do we have to follow Microsoft?

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How would you achieve such, with reasonable performance and ease, otherwise?

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There is a lot of reporting in the euro press about the move away from depending on American products such as Microsoft google etc.

The euro zone banks are moving away from visa America express Mastercard to a euro zone card, we already have blue cards and all will be replaced.

Just don’t know when and who will get the business

Collaboration on documents is seen as the future.

It’s fine web based apps but without internet you are limited

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Why do the word processor, the spreadsheet and the presentation tool need to be web based?
Tbe only thing that needs to be web based is the sharing tool.

Its like when you use a browser or email … you dont want a web based browser … you want your own local executable… but you might add a plugin to sync things.

Or did I misunderstand what they mean by ‘web based’. I dont want one central executable that everyone uses.

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I’ve worked in an office environment where that is the case. It was hell. People constantly needed access to the documents I was editing, if I wanted to get out of it, and out of my flow, for three minutes. This was frustrating to no end.

Google drive was a real innovation in that regard (or was it zoho which invented it?). It allowed people to work on the same document at the same time. That’s quite a game changer.

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No, but a web connection works best when two or more users work together so they can exchange thoughts and suggestions in real time, so something like a zoom session accompanied with something like a whiteboard that all participants can share may work well. With that said, I can remember collaborating with groups of two or more using a web forum or email, but both of those options fall down when a project either is or becomes very complex and/or large …

Ernie

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That’s how I took the term 'Web-based replacement for Microsoft Office and Google Docs, but I haven’t used either in a very long time, although as I remember it when I installed Google Docs on my computer, what I ended up with was a series of links connecting me to tools located on Google’s servers. Please correct me if I’m wrong …

Ernie

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Linux already has version control. It is called ‘git’. There were predecessors called CVS, RCS, … . It allows multiple users working on same document. It can be webified ( eg github).

That is not what I meant.
Read Ernie’s reaction

I feel the same. I dont want my spreadsheet or wordprocessor to be anywhere other than in my computer.
I dont want the Microsoft vision where to edit something I use a browser and go to their wordprocessor site and use an online tool.

Microsoft have become so poor at doing software updates that they have decided to keep one copy of the apps themselves and make everyone log into it.
I dont think Eurovision should go down that path … but their statement sounds like they are planning to.

We dont want open source that can not be run in our own computers.

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Does Google drive really offer version control?
My limited understanding is it is just a place for multiple apps and multiple users to store their documents.
It might share, but what does it do if users clash on
one document?
The most primitive form of version control is to lock a document while one person is editing it. Git is cleverer than that … it can merge multiple user’s edits. What, if anything , does google drive do?

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Not really, you do not have the ability to track changes as far as I can see.

It’s a balance of being able to share data between different users, some just view and some can change. We use it in our association, some love it like myself and our events organiser as we can see whats going on and interact, our 2 membership secretary hate it they both have seperate spreadsheets of member details which are totally different and I no longer have access to for data extraction or reporting, plus they cannot agree on how many or even who is a member. Last year we had one file held central and shared easy, but new team wanted excel not sheets.

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So Drive only a file sharing facility. That is useful, but not the full deal for multiuser editing.

Eurovision have a unique chance to get their Linux right … lets hope they make it a killing.

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Not quite, yes it has editing tools as well (word excel, powerpoint style)

OK, and you use those in Google’x server ?
So it is like microsoft..
I hope Eurovision does not go down that path … It is not necessary, it can be made to work with editing in one’s own hardware.

Linus does not edit Linux code online.

Yes

Or though microsoft one drive

Or proton etc.

The french euro version will be the same.

I tried to create my connection to test the french version because I have a french business but as of yet it will not allow me to do so, hence I have registered my interest but it could be some time before it’s done.

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Looking forward to your impressions …

Ernie

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I guess you just need a browser.
Is the software in google open source? … if not they are cheating … not moving to Linux properly

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I wonder how much of the mechanised warfare in Ukraine is powered by linux?

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We may never know, but based on the fact that we’re talking about Eastern Europe, the odds are good that the percentage is high, particularly with the drones both sides seem to be using - a sad use for GNU/Linux … :crying_face:

Ernie

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