Google must sell Chrome to end search monopoly!

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That’s where you lose me. Who decides what is excessive?

Sorry, you’re making too darn much money. We’ll have to take some of it / steal some of it / tax you.

Doesn’t that edge towards socialism?

I don’t care to talk about politics, so I think I’ll just drop it.

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We ( ie governments) decide, when they set the income tax rates for individuals and companies.
You can take money out of it, and argue that everyone should do some things freely for the common good, according to their capacity. A bit like putting money on the plate in Church. Large succesful companies have a lot of capacity, and it must be admitted they do invest some of it back into development which benefits all of us.

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And someone decides who is “large and successful”.

Also, I am of the opinion that “large and successful” corporations don’t pay ANY taxes. If a big, bad company XYZ has more taxes added to their already huge tax bill, they just raise the price of whatever their product or service is. It’s another cost of doing business. I know a market will only bear so much price increase, but you get my point.

It’s you and me, the consumer, that really is the only entity to EVER pay taxes.

Again, my opinion and let’s talk Open Source.

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I agree that is a problem… but its a legal or tax system problem. Splitting will not help solve it

Yes, FOSS is a much better topic. I will withdraw.

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Theory, opinion or conjecture?

Larry Ellison only bought Sun Microsystems to get hold of Java so he could sue Google for billions, which they (Oracle) did and won…

I’ve never dealt with Google support… So I don’t know what they’re like.

I’ve dealt with Sun Microsystems - it was stellar - best company ever to deal with when logging support tickets…

What happened to this (e.g. for Solaris and Sparc servers) support when Oracle bought them? It plummeted to the WORST company to deal with for support!

Anyway - I prefer Google as a company to Oracle… Larry Ellison looks like a Bond villain - he’s got his own tropical ISLAND FFS! His idea of “philanthropy” is to donate money to cryogenics research, 'cause when he karks it he wants to be frozen then thawed out again when they can fix up whatever it was killed him and resurrect frozen stiffs…

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Up to a few weeks ago, i ran my own small business.

I paid 20 % tax it was clear from the start

Big companies pay the same

Other charges are social and that is 5%

If you employ someone you pay more social charge for pensions

In theory all pay no matter what size

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If you split off Google the following:

  • Android (to a foundation which has a sole responsibility to maintain it).
  • The Play store + services into its own company. So, now it’ll have to compete with other stores on Android, which all of a sudden become viable options. This company can make a profit by providing services to the apps which choose to use it (for example: payment method integration, which is a logical first step as they also provide paid for apps).
  • Chrome… don’t know. In a foundation perhaps which gets told to maintain it. Perhaps they could also maintain ChromeOS?

This leaves Google with its cloud business, search, and advertising. However, it is all of a sudden no more a big player in the Android market, nor has control over the browser world.

If nothing is done, Google will become too big and destroy the market in its playing fields.

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How do you ensure that Android, Play store items, and Chrome remain compatible?

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I think this is important like the repositories in linux.

Yes it limits what can get in but that is also a protection.

Why punish Google?

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Not sure we want to go down this very emotive road with assisted death

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I don’t think any of us has much influence on what comes next here. All we can hope for is that things don’t get worse, and just wait and see. The DOJ will do what it thinks it should according to our (US) outdated monopoly laws.

If you ask me, we should update our legal system to accommodate the new realities of the Internet, AI, etc., but we don’t do that. We simply blindly bull ahead with whatever we see fit, then deal with the results. Hopefully, someday, we’ll learn better.

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The antitrust laws have a long legal history - of which most commenters seem ignorant - and have proved their worth over many decades. There is no good reason why Google should be exempt from them.

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Browser Choice Alliance

Against microsoft edge and its control

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I’m curious if they are as active to promote browser choice on Android devices.
Making a lot of noise about the OS dominating the PC market, but quietly forgetting how 66% of the browsers are Chrome and quasi 100% in Android.

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I had nefer thought of installing edge on my android phone or tablet up to now and your suggestion.

Normally I select opera as my second choice, no real logic or reason except it worked on a older tablet when everything else failed

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When is DoJ going to ask Microsoft to sell Edge?

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They did ask for microsoft browser choice in window some 20 years back but only once then it was forgotten

More recient

But that was europe

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