Agree, I would not like that either.
Fortunately, I have not had that experience with Mint.
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mint was the only distro at the time i had on USB. I intended to dual boot this with windows but that screwed up , so i on mint. I got a mini nuc i am about to set up and may put MX or Red hat on it - this is mainly for work. I heavily use AI for grammar and formatting
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There is this cure for distro hopping
Use Gentoo Linux… you can build any distro you want with that… even ones that do not exist as a download.
You do need some linux experience, and an understanding of compiling, before trying a Gentoo install.
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For a meal user conversion from windows or apple, this is ideal, no thought process needed, imagine your first sight is command line ?
So start with a look and feel good, continue just to use the computer to go about your day to day life, just like your phone. But for the more experianced you can still step out of the box and do your own thing.
There are still so many novice users to convert.
Think about why ms dos went to windows its easy with pictures
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That’s a good idea! Distrohopper myself here. At the start, I just was like “systemd is the best, I love it, other inits are bad”. I was wrong. When I learned about Devuan, I tried it in a VM with 1GB RAM and 1 CPU core. I was surprised that it booted even faster than my regular system with 16 resp. 12 times more RAM resp. CPU. So I went and installed Void and Gentoo on my primary system and using them happily as a daily driver. systemd is not bad, but very bloated and slow.
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Well, I tend to disagree. I’ve seen its unit files: they’re a bad thing. When runit does the exact same thing in two lines (per daemon), why does systemd need 50 lines to do the exact same thing, with an arcane syntax to top things off?
There is no specification for systemd: remember, there are other applications using its libraries. So, with one version what you’re using might be there, the next it may be gone. Nice and reliable… NOT.
There’s also the thing with binary logs. Fun if you’re relying on text processing tools to figure out what’s going on with your system. Implemented because of a fight with the Linux kernel developers over a debugging flag, while it would have been way simpler to choose a different debug flag, but apparently the egos of the systemd developers were bruised and they just decided to mess with everyone because they could. Oh, and forget about getting rid of it when you’re using something else to do your logging on a systemd box. When you delete journald, systemd will crash.
They even tried to submit patches to the Linux kernel which would make systemd a requirement on any Linux system. Fortunately, they got punched around over that quite a bit.
Systemd is a project which deserves to die, if only because the developers have ego problems.
…And somehow loads of FLOSS projects rely on this smoking piece of crap.
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Yeah I appreciate that Mint is a good starter for Linux novices.
Hey, that is close to what I did. I was going to keep Debian as a fallback, but it failed to drive my new graphics card, so I moved to MXahs.
I dont like the way systemd has branched out into parts of the system that have nothing to do with init.
Void is my absolute favourite.
I still look around… trying antiX and Netbsd at the moment.
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I have Gentoo running on 3 different computers!!! The ultimate “build-your-own-linux” is linuxfromscratch!!!
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Ouch, my ears! 
Gentoo is probably the better option of the two if you’re just looking for something for daily use, and even then I’d say Void Linux is better for most.
Thing with Gentoo and LFS is the endless compiling (ok, with Gentoo this can be mitigated through their binary repos). Not everybody wants this. LFS, on top of that, doesn’t have a package manager and you must do everything yourself.
If you’re happy with LFS, power to you, but building from source it not everybody’s cup of tea.
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Must be a change for I did not get the time shift automatically start, They must have made a change in that, now a reminder comes to do a timeshift. Installed 2 weeks ago
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And journalctl? I assume that if I enter the log viewer, I am shown the most recent entries and not a random app install from 2023. There’s room for improvement. Yeah, systemctl is quite nofty, but it [systemd] comes with loads of unnecessary stuff.
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LFS is headless on it’s own drive, with a base install it’s only job is for running grub and booting Gentoo and W11!!! Do not know if I will ever take LFS any deeper into BLFS, than it already is!!!
Gentoo, for now is what I use mostly!!! W11 I will use to run my printer, that I hope Santa will drop down my chimney!!!
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what is the lots of unnecessary
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Logfiles… we already have syslog
elogind … what has logging in got to do with init system
udevd … detecting devices has nothing to do with the init system
creeping systemd references in packages … it is locking our package system into one init system
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This is something mysterious to me. You boot a distro to boot GRUB which boots Windows/Gentoo?
My youngest son has also Windows on his computer to play LoL, GRUB alone is enough to boot Windows or Debian depending on actual need.
Why is there LFS needed?
Prepare some pillows in the fireplace so that the printer wont damage when falling down in that chimney 
Agree. I don’t like journalctl either.
Fortunately, we can reenable rsyslogd and disable systemd-journal.
You’re right, but there are some things which is just incredibly simple using systemd.
Like my just-attach-the-drive backup solution, which is now under construction 
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No it does not boot grub, it controls grub via its grub.cfg file.
It is if course not necessary for @Daniel_Phillips to use LFS in that way. … letting a distro control grub is a sign of confidence in its stability.
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This can only work if all Linux and Windows are installed on there separate drives!!! The base LFS. is probably, one of the most stable Linux, one can install, if I do not update LFS 12.4, it will boot, the life of my PC!!! I do not use os-prober, I configure grub, to boot Gentoo and W11!! It is something like a rescue disk boot, booting with a headless LFS. If I decide to build LFS, it is waiting!!!
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