What is the most underrated Linux distribution?

SparkyLinux is rolling release and Debian based.
I have no idea how its user interface performs.

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According to their website you get the choice between semi-rolling and stable, not rolling. That leaves the question, what do they mean with semi-rolling?

Also: their website is full of ads. Not particularly trustworthy.

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Like MX. Works like a full rolling distro until they hit a new major release. So you get package updates as well as security updates in between major releases.

Dont like the sound of that. Next step is adds in the updates.

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I’ve been using Artix as my main guest in KVM / virt-manager (with dinit) - because it starts up and shuts down so quickly! I’m impressed… Still troubleshooting my bridged (host) mode VS NAT VS ā€œmacvtapā€ - and it’s handy to fire up a VM and see if it worked (BTW - it’s still broken [bridged host mode] - and I have NO idea how I got it working in the first place!) - Artix starts in maybe 15 seconds or less - i.e. grub to desktop… Just timed it - under 10 seconds…

I actually hate it when distros remove tiny stuff - like ā€œncal / calā€ why? Most CLI / tty / ncurses apps are tiny…

– update –
If I ever dig out my Samsung N150 netbook (2 GB RAM and 64 GB SSD) - I reckon I’ll stick Artix on it… But when I’m going through my crates of obsoleted tech junk - I only ever find either :

  • Samsung power brick
  • Samsung N150
    never the two together…
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I have not tried it but there is Rolling Rhino Remix.

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That seems like a better choice if you want rolling + deb.
Main thing is a team that knows how to manage a rolling release.

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Do bridges self-configure?.. like switches
That may explain erratic behaviour
I never got a bridge to work… on the back burner.
Yoh are suppised to be able to

  • create a bridge at CLI
  • go into virt-manager and configure it to use existing bridge.

but it does not work for me.

A hard install boots considerably slower. Drivers I guess.

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It worked for me for a little while - until I started playing with the WRONG USB ethernet adaptor :smiley: (thought I was configuring a USB ethernet ā€œgadgetā€ on a Pi Zero 2W plugged into USB port)
I have several USB 3 gigabit ethernet adaptors…
I might try another one and see how I go…
ā€œmacvtapā€ sorta works - but not as transparently as a host-bridge… I think ā€œmacvtapā€ uses the same vibr0 device that NAT uses…
I prefer ā€œregularā€ network bridge like how it works in Oracle VirtualBox… But that’s not enough to make me jump from kvm/qemu back to VirtualBox…

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Here are some instructions for a bridge used by qemu ( not virt-manager) in Netbsd

30.3. Configuring bridged networking on a NetBSD host

While QEMU user networking is easy to use and doesn't require root privileges, it's generally slower than bridged networking using a tap(4) device, and doesn't allow the use of diagnostic tools like ping(8) inside the guest.

To configure bridged networking on a NetBSD host, you must first make note of your host machine’s primary network interace. Find the one with an address assigned and a route to the outside world with ifconfig(8).

In this example, the host machine’s primary interface is wm0. All of these commands run on the host machine.

Create a virtual tap(4) interface:

# ifconfig tap0 create
# ifconfig tap0 descr "NetBSD VM" up

Create a bridge(4) connecting the actual interface and the virtual interface:

# ifconfig bridge0 create
# ifconfig bridge0 descr "LAN VM bridge" up
# brconfig bridge0 add tap0 add wm0

Configure NetBSD to do this all at boot time by editing /etc/ifconfig.tap0:

create
descr "NetBSD VM" up
! ifconfig bridge0 create
! ifconfig bridge0 descr "LAN VM bridge" up
! brconfig bridge0 add tap0 add wm0

You can now pass the arguments to QEMU to run with bridged networking:

-netdev tap,id=tap0,ifname=tap0,script=no -device virtio-net-pci,netdev=tap0

It says what I was saying… you set the bridge up first in the host with CLI, then access it from the VM.

Now, can you explain to me what tap0 is for?
OK I read a bit and found this
" Hypervisors like QEMU/KVM use TAP devices to give virtual machines access to the network, allowing them to send and receive traffic as if they had their own Ethernet ports. "

So if that is all it is, virt-manager already has a tap interface? Why make another one?

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Yes,ok,but if you have a small drive you don’t want stuff like libreoffice asnd other stuff

i rather install it myself,which is in Artix and other Arch-based distro’s very easy!

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This warning when you attempt to use Macvtap device :
ā€œIn most configurations, macvtap does not work for host to guest network communication.ā€


I’m pretty sure Macvtap uses the same vibr0 as NAT…

Which is precisely what I experienced… i.e. I’d like to be able to SSH to my guest, from my hypervisor / kvm host… hence why I was chasing up the bridged networking (host based)…

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You can do that without a bridge. Host can talk to its guests, even with NAT.
Do you mean from some other remote host?

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Yeah - with NAT you can from the host - if you know the NAT IP address of the guest - but you can’t SSH to the guest from another host on the VLAN (except to use ProxyJump in .ssh/config). With Macvtap - you can ssh to the guest from another host on the VLAN - but not from the ā€œhostā€ itself…

Bridged mode on VirtualBox just does this automatically without fiddling… i.e. a guest presents itself on the ethernet LAN just like a real device, requests a DHCP lease, and you can reach it from anywhere else on that VLAN (including the machine running VirtualBox).

So I know all the workarounds - but - I won’t be happy until I can make it (once again) work like it does on VirtualBox (and I think VMware is the same - or similar)…

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Opened to take a look. The first window that pops up: one of these ā€œCan we use your data to sell and show you personalised ads?ā€.
OK, that’s it. Never using this distro unless it finds a more ethical, less user-annoying and privacy-friendly monetary approach and until it stops tracking. Ublock blocked 15 trackers on 3 secs on that site.

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Talking lifespan of hardware ,my equipment ranges from 2010 -2011 -2013 and 2014 all happily running 64 bit versions of the latest Mint and Zorin distros.

Frank in County Wicklow -Ireland

2-14

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OK, I missed the bit about ā€œnot from host itselfā€.

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Think I am in a similar boat with the age of my netbooks one is still on 32 but it’s that old 2008

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Just today I watched a video on YouTube about to resurrect an old Asus Eee PC 1000HE Netbook and in some comment was mentioned

Not sure if was mentioned before what I am just sharing just in case

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It seems wattos is x86 and x86_64… so yes it has 32 bit.
It is a lightweight Debian.

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According with this link

among many points appear these two at the top practically together:

  • Based on Debian 12 Bookworm - Stable release
  • Kernel 6.1 for 64bit PC installation

So it seems it does not support 32bit

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