PS: Slightly provocative, your post. Dropping this in a Linux-dominated community is similar to smoking a fat cigar at a filling station. 
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[quote=âAlfred BĂŒhler, post:161, topic:14109, username:abuâ]
quotations are broken
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They look fine to me on my screen.
I reply direct without wordprocessing. But two things could cause any errors on my part. My system is setup to do french so some autocorections slip through. Also i am dyslexic so read what i think i write and dont spot errors easy
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Oh, yeaaahh! 
Read my story here!
Foreword:
In the late summer of the year 2018. I made a hardware upgrade, that time I used Windows 7, and Vegas pro 13 for my work. It was my mistake that I choosed a motherboard that lakced correct drivers for Windows 7. It had something, but worked badly.
So despite I did not have the intention, I upgraded my Windows 7 to Windows 10.
At least that time it was still free upgradeâŠ
I also upgraded Vegas suite to v15 in more steps.
I really hated Win10 look&feel, but at least it worked.
Every now&then the startup (boot) had a terrible delay, while I could just see those spinning circles, donât switch off, updates installing, etc..
Once I saw this spinnig phenomenon, I knew I can easily brew and evein drink one more coffee, before the computer gets ready to work.
But the real problems started late 2018 in the winter, december or soâŠ
Windows decided to upgrade the drivers of my Radeon card, as the new driver is newer, so it surely better⊠Well, maybe, but it broke my Vegas instance.
As I had a âHomeâ licence for Windows 7, that was kept, and I had a âHomeâ licence for Windows 10, hence there wasnât a way to âtalkâ Windows out of updating that driver. The only solution was to completely remove Radeon drivers, and reinstall the original, working piece.
I had to do this every week. Literally every week removed radeon drivers, reinstalled the original, and so it worked for a limited time.
My hair wasnât that thick, but I lost most of its residues in that spring.
Anyway, april 2019 was the last time I booted Windows on baremetal.
That time I moved to Linux Mint, then Debian 10, now I run Debian 12.
Boot time is below 25 seconds at any time, I could decide not to update something if I donât want to, and I have a second coffee only if I feel I canât keep up with the fast computer⊠and not because it is applying updates for 8..10 minutes.
Things just work, virtually never break. Just power on and GO!
Like a Mac, but way more affordable
Now tell me please, why would Windows be less difficult?
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Even after reading your excellent story, thank you for that, I still resist falling back into any Windows bashing. 
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And I forgot to mention candy crush saga. That took up valuable GBs on the system drive, and once I removed, it was automagically reinstalled. Just could not get rid of it, whatever debloat powershell script I ran⊠was just a temporary solution. Not a pleasant behavior of Windows.
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There is some bug which has crept into discourse recentlyâŠ.. when you make a quote, it does not move the cursor down below the end of the quote, so if you type on, it all apprears inside the quote.
Is that what @abu was referring to.?
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You might be surprised if you select the correct distribution (operating system). A distribution like Arch or Gentoo might be considered really difficult by a beginner, but distributions such as Linux Mint, MX Linux, or Ubuntu Linux are extremely easy to use.
Thatâs⊠only logical 
. Itâs an entirely different operating system. The software you use to get stuff done is different. Photoshop isnât available on Linux, but there are alternatives which work on Linux; they do work differently though and could take getting used to.
Choice is bad? In what universe?
This is not true. For normal usage you can live perfectly in a GUI and get everything done you need to do.
Linux Mint, for example, is quite easy. Both to install and to use on a daily basis. If issues arise which require you to drop to the command line interface (rarely, if ever (I never need to), these days) help is readily available in the community of your distribution of choice.
Yes, Arch and Gentoo are complicated. Youâre better off starting out with Linux Mint, MX Linux, or Ubuntu Linux. These are aimed at beginners.
EDITS: had made a mistake in responding. Corrected now.
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I suspect so, i had not noticed in detail just continued as usual
I highlight use copy quote and paste as i have always done.
That says it all.
I make quite different choices to most users, but I do not attempt to press my choices onto others. The F in FOSS stands for âfreeâ âŠ. it is one of the big attractions of both Linux and BSD. It also applies to important components of Linux, such as DEââs. , and to many small programs such as document viewers and utilities for comparing files.
You dont have to learn the whole spectrum of choicesâŠ. try a few and settle on one that suits you. @Alinah needs to rethink.
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The words âquotations are brokenâ is inside the quotation
it should be below it, I think?
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No. The issue is that some correction facility at @callpaul.eu automatically substitutes any ââ by ââ. It might be correct in French typesetting, but the discourse forum misinterprets them.
But this is completely OT. Letâs open a separate topic if any further discussion is requested.
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I have some thoughts. About 10 years ago I setup Xubuntu with Skype paired with a cheap webcam on a then fairly old Thinkpad. It was simply for my friend to Skype with his grand kids. Heâs completely computer naive. Heck at the time he still had a flip phone. He had no problem using Xubuntu. I even got him setup with Yahoo Mail and he was okay navigating with Firefox.
My thoughts are with most people being stuck in the Windows mindset itâs simply familiarity. Most people donât like change. They donât care enough about privacy or malware to ditch Windows and learn a different way of doing things.
Just my 
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Theyâll change their minds when the pain becomes terrible enough.
Microsoft is smart: their tactics could be compared to boiling a frog. Each time they step up their game just by a tiny bit so people wonât run away screaming.
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[quote=âAlfred BĂŒhler, post:173, topic:14109, username:abuâ]
French typesetting
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The difficulty for me is it looks fine on my screen,
I will convert my system to english and try again
[quote=âNeville Jackson, post:172, topic:14109, username:nevjâ]
quotations are brokenâ is
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I see no difference.
But yes the french set is different as we have accents, but if its down to that then my fellow members from other countries should have same issue.
Think you may just have to put up with me being different (difficult)
I donât think itâs you. Just one more thing: I have examined Pauls activity log to see where the issue occurs first.
| Date | Remark | Link to post |
|---|---|---|
| Jul 31, 1:32 PM | first broken | Spam Again in the Forum! - #14 by callpaul.eu |
| Jul 31, 8:30 AM | last unbroken | Here's Why It's FOSS Community Forum is Being Targeted by Spammers! - #3 by callpaul.eu |
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Obviously we all are some kind of laboratory rats here.
The good banana ripens at the customerâs!
EDIT: I really donât like that new stream!
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Never been a banana, worked for apple a few years and own a raspberry pi, taught at a college where we used apricots and in my store cupboard have an old orange amplifierâŠ.. my life is a little fruity!
Not sure there is much I can do to help.
Will keep drinking the rosé wine for my 5 fruits per day !
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Youâre a lucky guy; enjoy your rosĂ© until someone fixes this broken forum.
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Drop by and we can share a bottle whilst putting the world right, if we fail with the forum
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