@berninghausen ,
There is a terminal version
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Same here. Though a majority of people don’t like the fact that Duck-Duck-Go use Bing to look up images. It’s only images and nothing else, unless you click on a Microsoft site, yet people complained like mad about it. If they were tracking, key logging, selling people off as a product, then surely that’s the time to complain? Then again 90% of the world use Windows, without a care in the world about privacy. No one reads the EULA when they install Windows. The EULA for Windows 10 has not been updated since 2018. Though I think Windows 11 covers it? Don’t quote me on that.
Just choose Duckduckgo as your browser search engine. Why bother with a terminal version?
On the nose. 95% of the people who use computers are clueless about security. That’s 90% Windows, 3% Apple, and 2% Linux. The rest of us just duck and cover.
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Hopefully this group here is not in that 95% and the bad guys go for the easy targets. But we may still get hit too.
You will get hit every day if you use MS, Apple, Google, Chrome etc,etc. The problem is that what they are doing today is only the thin end of the wedge. Every year they modify their terms and conditions in a way which allows them to expand their activities and people just go along with it. I would venture to say thet 99% of their users don’t even read the T&C’s, they just clik Accept. MS and Google are both government actors, how else do you think they get away with monopolistic business practices if there isn’t something in it for Uncle Sam.
I use Parrot Security OS + Proton VPN with Ungoogled Chromium for browsing. It has all the practicality of a blink drive browser but none of the spyware that other forked chromium browsers such as Brave, Opera, Vivaldi etc, etc, covertly use.
I use Yandex for the search engine as I know I can be sure that our Russian friends won’t have any interest whatsoever in my searches, so it’s dead data as far as they are concerned. All western search engines have some affiliation with data capture companies, even Duck Duck Go if only to cover their operating costs.
All I will say too all this, is yes I run W11 on my work machine, without any issues. I do use a vpn when I am on the internet, along with Google, as for the Data collection, I could care less.
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I think we have to distinguish between deliberate, targeted data collection and routine logging.
You are logged every time you do something today… every phone call, every EFTPOS transaction, … and probably every time you use a computer OS.
Logging is part of life today, like it or not.
Before computers, you were logged by people you encountered. Those who tried to avoid that using masks or disguises were treated with suspicion.
Noone advocated logging avoidance in the pre-computer era.
Why do we want logging avoidance today?
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Yes, but some take data collection to an extreme, like they may be trying to avoid the CIA, FBI, KGB etc. I never log into my accounts, unless I am using my VPN.
You mean bank accounts?
How does VPN help?
I mean any internet activity, you wish to keep prying eyes off of your real ip address, unless you let certain websites access. Sure has stopped all my junk emails.
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Can’t figure out how using a VPN would stop junk emails. Please explain how this works.
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I think it helps to prevent bots from getting your email address.
It would not stop junk mails arriving
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I did not know my email address was attached my IP address. So you are saying, if I give you my home IP address, you will be able to send me an email?
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No, they are not related.
Its just that some of your internet packets contain your email address, and if they spy on unencrypted packets they can find email addresses.
The other place they get email addresses is if you give it to a supplier, sometimes people steal them.
and
if you are like me and do scientific publications, they often publish your email address along with it. Nice people like
FOSS dont publish your email.
I get lots of junk mail
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Me too - most of it gets identified as spam before I even see it…
In a lot of cases - they just randomly send to a furphied range of possible names at a domain… easy enough to generate… they find an compromised SMTP relay and blat them out with little concern that most of them will never reach anyone… a bit like impregnation - most of the sperm will never fertilise the egg…
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All that internet traffic must have a cost?
I took one look at Windows 11 and thought to myself “this is horrible”.
The start menu in the middle of the screen I could understand (wide screen), but how things worked in the start menu and the covert ads was REALLY annoying. Then I wanted to change some settings. This was, of course, a hassle. Then it wanted to update. I had to wait for over an hour for Windows to finally finish updating. As if on cue, once finished, it told me there were more updates waiting to happen.
How do people survive this? I have a computer to get things done. When I need to update, it should happen in at most two minutes (for a huge update).
Windows 11 almost made me violent.
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My experience exactly.
When I turn a computer off ( ie shutdown), I want power off in 30 secs. not
an hour of updates.
Debian is starting this updates at shutdown nonsense too… I think it is systemd related. It is enough to stop me using Debian.
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