About six months ago I tried openSUSE Tumbleweed. It seemed fine for usability. My main complaint was that it seemed to have a large amount of updates. I suppose I could have just ignored them or only checked once a week, but I tend to check every day and apply anything outstanding. That added up to a lot.
Other than that, it was fine to use. I didn’t use it long enough to see about the number of packages available and how recent they were. Judging by the patches they’d be close to the latest.
I only ran it as a VM, so I can’t really say how it was on hardware support.
My main complaint was that it seemed to have a large amount of updates. I suppose I could have just ignored them or only checked once a week, but I tend to check every day and apply anything outstanding. That added up to a lot.
Interesting
I only ran it as a VM, so I can’t really say how it was on hardware support.
So do I, I mean: It is the best way to start playing with any distribution
I also tried the rolling version (Tumbleweed) once out of curiosity. I was wondering how the btrfs+snapper works. I didn’t get used to the GUI package manager (YAST?) because I’m so used to use terminal cli commands when updating/upgrading/installing. I kinda feel what pdecker says about the package manager. It’s same with any distro who tries to be all GUI and easy to use. The workflow gets interrupted with all kind of pop ups / notifications which are not needed when I’m doing my stuff. I update my system at least twice a week but it’s always my choice when I do it in terminal.
Sorry my rant but OpenSUSE felt like all the other distroes who want to babysit me
That is exactly it.
You either want total babysitting, so you might as well use Android, or full control so you go withoug a DE and use a Window Manager…
I am happy at both extremes, depending on what I am doing, but the inbetween distros can be annoying.
These linux distros that become ‘enterprise’ really go over the top with complexity… Red Hat used to be a nice simple linux like Slackware. If the same has happened to SUSE I am afraid it may be an overkill for a home desktop.?
Do we have any SUSE users? Is it workable in a home system?
21 years ago I tried Red Hat, Kubuntu and finally also SuSE (Software- und System-Entwicklung).
I was (and still am) a freelance proofreader (Dutch) with a lot of customers sending me their documents, so my OS had to be stable and reliable. openSUSE, as it is called now, has proven to be very solid. (I’m using Leap, not Tumbleweed.)
Also important I think: the community is kind and very helpful.
That is great, we needed to hear it from you.
I think it is time for me to give SUSE a try… my background is mostly FreeBSD snd Debian… it will be a change. I have quite often looked at their documentation and it is helpful.
It gives the pluses and minuses.
It also contains a nice coverage of security in Flatpak and Snap installs
I also noticed that Tumbleweed only offers KDE or Gnome. I prefer neither of those.
I get the impression that OpenSUSE has lots of tools to help you manage the system, but these tools are high level and therefore tend to obscure what is going on under the cover. That might suit most people, but I like to see the wheels going round.
Tumbkeweed is supposed to be a well managed rolling release… so you get comments like this
" I’m running Tumbleweed, because I want a rolling release and don’t want to bother with Arch or relying on AUR for everything. "
I doubt if it could be better than Void or Gentoo, but that does not mean it is not good.
During install you can skip the desktop environments or chose ‘text’.
It is about:
The style of the process to install the OS
Such as Debian where through the installation process there is a point where is requested to select how the OS should be installed?: through either GUI or Text (no mouse)
Or is about
What is the OS type to install?
I mean Desktop vs Server? Such as Debian too
I was (and still am) a freelance proofreader (Dutch) with a lot of customers sending me their documents, so my OS had to be stable and reliable. openSUSE, as it is called now, has proven to be very solid. (I’m using Leap, not Tumbleweed.)
Can we know why you chose Suse? In that point of time over other distributions
Also important I think: the community is kind and very helpful.
Thanks for share that point too
Yes! openSUSE is just epic .
Due that I am going to start to play with openSuse soon as I can
Neville
I also noticed that Tumbleweed only offers KDE or Gnome. I prefer neither of those.
What DE do you prefer? xfce? and Why?
I get the impression that OpenSUSE has lots of tools to help you manage the system, but these tools are high level and therefore tend to obscure what is going on under the cover. That might suit most people, but I like to see the wheels going round.
But if there is a terminal … there is the command power yet
I prefer Xfce or IceWM
Why? Because I mostly use terminal windows and CLI commands.
I do use an icon to start the File Manager, or Browser or Email., but Xfce offers that.
I make heavy use of workspaces and session saving. Xfce offers 4 workspaces and both manual and automatic session saving.
That is about all I need.
I do prefer a dropdown menu to the screen full of icons that Gnome defailts to . You can convert gnome to a menu, but it is not the default.
KDE with Qt feels strange. I played with it. Too many complicated distractions. I could not think of a use for plasmids and I dont like things dotted all over my background, I put everything in a panel. If I had to use Qt I think I would choose LXQt, not KDE.
My next experiment will be Enlightenment Window Manager. It looks interesting.