Daylight saving time, thoughts?

Ok

Did you remember to change ?

I’ve known (personally) people involved on “both sides” … I have personal views of which side was in “the right” and which side was in the wrong… At one time the “Fenians” were from both Catholic and Protestant backgrounds - but the English knew how to play each side against the other - the end result being “Northern Ireland”… both sides regret that… In the middle of the 19th century - there were Fenians from Ulster and Londonderry…

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Think we all have views on right or wrong but most are influenced by report in the media or parents. Friends… Always difficult to really know what is happening or being pushed.

That’s why I try not to judge or comment on anything around religious events. Politics money or anything thing similar.

I have views like you could be considered biased in one direction or another

Easy to gree that is different and respect the others point of view

Even if it’s wrong,(ha ha ha) I joke.

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I view right and wrong as applying to individuals.
Once you go beyond individual responsibility , events are never black or white… there are many grades of desirability, and it can be multi-faceted.

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Back to the original topic… DST
The name is wrong , it does not save daylight, it shifts it relative to the clock.
Should be called Summer Clock Shift.

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Maybe a better name would be DIM for Darker In the Morning.
or
Maybe MES for More Evening Sunlight. :laughing:

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All wrong !

It was implemented by

Eli Lilly and Company - Wikipedia.

to create depression and Seasonal affective disorder helps the company sell and prescribe prozac ask 99 % of the population.

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True, but in effect it does save daylight. If we didn’t “spring forward” the sun would come up at 4:30 AM where I live. That daylight would be wasted. We’re “saving” it for later in the day when we’re awake.

I understand we’re simply moving the clock and our schedules. I’m good with keeping it as is. More time for golf after work. If I wanted to get up at 4:00 AM to golf I could do that too I suppose, but that doesn’t match up well with my work/home schedule.

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Its that time again, to change the clock, gain an hour extra in bed …… or not, as we discovered last time i raised this not everyone gets it

But i am off to bed early so i gain even more or not

Summer change i love but winter no thanks to dark nights except more time on the computer as its too dark to play out !

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Ours changed at beginning of October. It means I have to sit up till midnight for it to be cool enough to go to sleep..
I do not like it.
My computer does not seem to mind.

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There are two states in Australia that don’t implement Daylight Saving…

Where I am - i.e. West Australia - and Queensland…

In my lifetime - we’ve had 3 trials of it here in WA - i.e. 3 years in a row - then a referendum asking to continue and the answer is always “No!”… Once when I was in primary school (early/mid 70’s) … Another time in the late 80’s… And then again around 2007, 8, 9… I was doing UNIX (mostly Solaris) admin stuff 2008 and 2009 - but someone else on our team ensured the cutover went smoothly…

Me? I prefer it - but - I am grateful I’m not in charge of a massive server farm and hope everything gets sync’d at the time change… One thing that’s annoying - I do actually deal with quite a few colleagues in Sydney and Melbourne, and come late Sept or early Oct - they’re suddenly THREE hours ahead of me instead of TWO!

One thing that’s always a bit “hairy” is databases - usually okay to jump forward in time - can be problems when jumping backwards…

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Quick and dirty: I don’t care. :wink:

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I wonder what would happen of I had a Gentoo compile running at 2.00am on the night of the swapover. Make depends on file dates for information about whether object files are up to date. … it could tangle seriously if dating changed during a make.

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Wise men won’t do that. :grin:

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Use linux mint ….. hahaha

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I think you didn’t get the point—another time. :grin:

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Not sure, but I guess this can be worked around by using universal time for any records in databases, filesystems, an use this universal time for comarisons, etc.
The time presented to the user just translated to a local time. Local time translation takes into account the daylight-wasting-time change.

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yes, UTC should deal with that.
When you install you get an option to choose UTC or localtime. You should choose UTC. I think it is the default in most installs.

I will have to be carefull… several multibooted linuxes and now one BSD all working on the same data filesystem . They need to all be using the same time system. I dont see any mess, so they must be all the same… it was a fluke, I never thought about it.

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I dont like that. How do I know if a time I am looking at, eg in an ls command, has been fiddled for presenting to the user.
When I look, I want to see what is there.

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I wouldn’t say “fiddled”. There is simply a TZ offset applied, referring to your local TZ. How else would you deal with file dates across different TZs?

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