Nor, that I could find AnduinOS mentioned. (It’s built by an ex Microsoft Engineer, albeit Hong Kong Chinese resident, who is quite defensive about that.) It has an interesting look, just like Netrunner, FerenOS, MX OS, and NixOS have their own looks.
I think that describes the state all of us are in.
Noone goes digging into the source code to try and fix issues… we look for a workaround.
In the days before web searches or AI, it was much more difficult… I often had to consult colleagues , or go to the library, or invent my own solution. I did once resort to rewriting a fortran library in assembler. Those sort of things take months. It is much easier today… most users with some experiance can find a workaround.
In 2002, I installed Fedora, but did something wrong, only got a command line, and gave up.
In 2003, my Windows 98 machine kept getting eaten up by a boot sector virus that I couldn’t get rid of, so I installed Mandrake, and have mostly been a Linux (and never a Windows) user since. I’ve used Mandrake, some proprietary distro (that came with the company’s hardware) I can’t remember the name of, OpenSuse, Arch, Manjaro, Raspberry Pi OS, various flavors of Ubuntu, settled on Mint for several years, and recently switch to MX. I’m running that on a cheap Chinese mini PC, Intel N100, 16Gb of RAM, and it’s quite nice.
Will that PC run a VM. ?
A VM is easy to use and allows you to experiment while keeping your main daily use distro untouched.
Yes, it’s fully functional PC (it came with Windoze 11, I scrubbed that and installed Linux as soon as I got it). It will presumably run VMs just fine, but I haven’t had occasion to try it. I’m a pretty simple guy with pretty simple needs.
As for alternative OSes, I am liking MX just fine and probably won’t move any time soon, but I have been loading up a Ventoy USB with other distros just to play around. I suppose if I wanted to do something requiring systemd, I could just boot into USB and use Pop! OS or whatever.
The latest MX25 will boot with either sysvinit or systemd.
Look in the Advanced Options section in the grub menu .
It has to be the latest release… an upgrade of an older release will not do.
So glad you guy’s are liking MX, AntX and whatever other Debian based Distro that may be offered!!! For myself, I will stick with Gentoo, LFS and Slackware!! Gentoo and LFS are ran in a VM and so is Slackware, on my other W11 machine, but Slackware15 now anchors my old Dell Inspiron 530 machine, that is running XP!!
You are an exceptional case on this forum. i tried Gentoo (with your help) and yes I can see it releases you from all sorts of restrictions. For most people it is just tooo time consuming keeping it updated if you compile. I would like to see how a binary Gentoo would compare with something like MX or Debian for daily use. Would it still be more of a burden? That amounts to asking is portage as usable as apt?
If the answer is yes, why arent we all using Gentoo?
That’s an easy one, Nev. The less a tool comes between us and our work, the better. We use computers because they pose a lower barrier between us and our work than a typewriter. An automatic transmission is a lower barrier than a standard gearbox. If a tool gives less trouble or a better job, we use it.
Any distro that requires as much hands-on as Gentoo does is way at the bottom of my stack. MX-25, *buntu, or Fedora are at the top. Almost at the bottom are all the tiling desktops running any distro–mouse and screen are more intuitive than keyboards.
But, Gentoo now offers binary kernel and packages … the same as any other distro.
I think it is suffering from a carryover image from the days when compiling Gentoo was compulsory. Sure you still have to learn portage… but there are lots of distros that use alternatives to apt.
Binary packages are fine, and they do simplify the Gentoo process!! But if one has a capable machine, which I do, then I prefer the Gentoo way, no binary packages, and build with the gentoo-sources kernel and a manual kernel install!! This keeps from dragging in deps that I really do not want, even if the book is geared towards the gentoo-kernel install!! So, maybe we should all be using Gentoo?
Are you saying that a binary Gentoo drags in more dependencies than a compiled Gentoo?
I think I see what you mean … I can only set USE FLAGS if I compile… Is that it?
Kind of!! Gentoo has to have certain parameters set, to use binary packages, which then pulls in packages to meet the deps of a Gentoo binary package install, if one is using either gentoo-kernel or gentoo-kernel-bin!! To cut through the Linux fog, all distros use the same basic package list, the rest is just bloat, and Gentoo and Slackware, will give a true running basic Linux OS, the rest is up to you!!
Windows 11 Pro costs $199, why not dual boot?
Like Trixie, lol.
True, I hadn’t thought of that.
But I’m doing just fine without systemd. I’ll either continue to eschew it or eventually go back to using it, not a huge deal either way.
I did dual boot until recently. When I decided to dump Mint and move to MX, I thought about it, realized I had used Windows maybe twice in the last year to play a game I can live without, and nuked it as part of the install. I may eventually go back to dual boot … between two Linux distros. I gave my son the Windows 11 product key info in case he gets a box he wants to put that on … but he’s not big on any Windows after 7 himself.
But will it run on the computer and who would want to invest in ms products, plus why both with pro, most home users would not need the extra bits.
Personally I would stick with mint and donate the 200 to their fund
Dual boot with 2 linuxes can be handy… if one linux has an issue affecting boot, you can boot the other and edit the root filesystem of the errant linux.
I usually install a new release as a dual boot … then I can run the new and old releases in parallel and iron out any config issues before I ditch the old release.