Google controls the world!

There is a specialist version of google called google scholar which searches scientific papers. It is a deeper search

I use it sometimes.

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Not my market or need.

I used to do lots of search engine optimisation and used google my business plus many search engine submission tools so that got my sites into google. Did the same for bing, but it was never as good, similar with yahoo in its time.

I still get the google reports but stopped needed them for clients

It is not as efficient as it was before because nowadays many websites don’t allow Google bots and crawlers. I use DuckDuckGo as my primary search engine both in my PC and mobile Firefox and it’s better and it saves no searching data or keywords you use.

It has lost everything. Google is now an ad-agency who not only steals all private data, it sells them to the govts. and other mega-corporations worldwide.

Ok duckduckgo results are a compilation of “over 400” sources according to itself, including Bing, Yahoo! Search BOSS, Wolfram Alpha, Yandex, and its own web crawler (the DuckDuckBot); but none from Google

But bigger companies still rely on google page ranking to be found.

Still happy with google

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Bigger companies rely on Google not for only page ranking. They are with Google for bigger fish to fry. In the present scenario, if you create a website, you don’t need to post it Google search engine to get results. You just make your metadata good and Google and other search engines will automatically crawl it. If you block Google’s bots and crawlers entirely, then also your website will do good ranking. A website’s ranking doesn’t really depends on Google, believe me because this is what I do for my bread and butter. Google just showcased itself very strategically and very successfully to make people think that they are the only ONE, which is NOT QUITE TRUE. People have understood that now and for that, dependence on Google is decreasing day by day and I think you know that Google has faced ANTI-TRUST lawsuits in many countries including USA, its own birthplace.

Good to know. This is just personal choice and I really hate looking into someone’s privacy. You happy, I happy. :innocent::blush:

I stopped doing new web site creation a few years back so have lost touch with current trends. Of the 4 I manage only 2 of them rely on customers finding them, that i did originally through seo, submission key words, tags, named images, google maps, etc to get the profile high and found. Now they are established no big deal.

The site for my village association, we are a special market so only those interested would find us, search engines do but not important.

My own site not important as i am retired and only run it for fun.

The biggest issue for my clients is understanding what google is !
Browser ?
Search engine?
Email?
Map?

Many turn up and mix the words when asking for one, they have difficulty seperating. So will ask for google, I install chrome, then they say the want google but want it on edge or firefox, or they just want the mail without realising its gmail by google.

Throw in android on the phone and even worse.

The main part is in french they dont use browser they just want internet… language changes things.

The same clients dont understand hard disk, and memory so fighting a loosing battle with most

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I actually never used Chrome and most of my clients, except one who is like yours, don’t even know what is a hard disk and don’t want to learn a thing, whose computers I have assembled, all use Firefox because I haven’t installed Chrome in their PCs and replaced the default search engine to DuckDuckGo. Some asked about these two, knowing nothing and a 5 minutes lecture did the job. :smile: I personally use the same and Thunderbird, both in Windows and Linux but Thunderbird in Linux is forgetting the saved passwords of my email acvounts which are connected with my personal web server, not with my gmail accounts. In my phone, I use K-9 mail as Thunderbird is not available on Android and they have endorsed K-9 mail instead and I use it to connect to my server emails.

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Working with older people i get many calls from i have forgotten my password, advantage of the gmail account or chrome users, you click the link forgot and the phone sounds with the code to access or reset the password… in many cases a 15 min fix plus they get all bookmarks etc back on the screen.

Compaired to windows forgot password its usually a full re install several updates and hours lost.

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In case of saving passwords and bookmarks, Firefox and Thunderbird both have those facilities. Whenever I save a bookmark, I take backup. Same for logins and passwords. In earlier Firefox and Thunderbird, exporting logins and passwords were a bit tricky. But now both have options to export all the settings, logins, passwords, bookmarks in one zip file. If I need to reinstall Firefox and Thunderbird, I just have to use the import options to import them. Thunderbird also exports the mails inside that zip file. In Firefox, there is a ‘Passwords’ option on clicking which the saved passwords become visible, all the passwords. I can retrieve my password if I need to. Generally it doesn’t require because Firefox’s autofill, automatically fills up the login forms and it remembers very well site wise logins and passwords.

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I just copy the .thunderbird or .mozilla dir in the /home as a whole.
Everything is there!

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It depends on individual choice. When these two got the export/import option, then why shouldn’t I take the advantage? It much faster and hassle free. :slightly_smiling_face:

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I may be wrong, but as I remember, when I copied the whole .thunderbird dir for my wife from one install to another, did not have to bother with oauth.

But I should check, wether it really works now, I’m not completely sure.
But I’m very sure, that every little setting, including extensions for Cal/Card-DAV, settings for for signature, display layout, and all bells and whistles were transferred. I’m not sure exporting/importing would do that bit-perfect copy, but not sure, as I admit, I did not try :slight_smile:

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I think I am with you on this Laszlo… nothing could be simpler than copying a directory recursively.
There may be a point to making a zip file if I wanted to move it to another computer.

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Exactly. I have to copy my bookmarks and login/passwords from Windows to Linux and revently, I am doing this quite a lot as I am experimenting on how to install Nvidia GeForce GTX 730 driver (RPM Fusion package) in Fedora. I will create a separate thread on this as I need a working solution.