Sorry , I misread him… I thought he said there was no root user … what he said was there was no root password.
What he should do is
sudo su
to become root
then use
passwd
to reset root’s password.
I need to read posts more carefully. THanks for correction.
I added a warning to that wrong reply.
That may be safest, but it is a bit limiting
I disagree - I don’t think he should have sudo privileges - sorry @theking2 - I think you need to put on trainer wheels and start with the basics… and I certainly don’t think you should be using Fedora as your first Linux distro… Use something way more forgiving - like Mint, or Ubuntu…
There is a PPD file at
It is up to @theking2 . I am not sure how much experience he has.
Is fedora a good idea.
All these issues just to add a printer
With mint it’s just switch on and use it.
Cups Used to be so easy and on the brother site with the link it should just happen unless there is another reason
By the way brother printers make great door stops on the way to the scrap yard but I am biased
BTW, it’s just one issue. Diss an entire distribution because of one minor issue? Clearly no.
If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
I have a fully autoomatic robotique controlled electronic screwdriver, and its easy to use.
Was not knocking just asking why it’s so difficult ?
And I just wanted to say that LM is not the solution for everything.
I know that, its really the debian version….. only joking. But for 90 % of end users they just want something simple to use.
This question highlights the issues with some linux versions for end users.
Yes, what’s the saying? “Works right out of the box.” or something like that. I’ve gone from LM version 18 to 22 and never had a problem with LM recognizing the printer or modem. Two common problems I read about over and over again. True, the problem can be solved, but it is nice when something just works.
@daniel.m.tripp does that all the time, so it is not surprising to see him recommend ditching Fedora.
I think it is a commercial world approach… dont waste time fixing clunky distros.
At home we can mostly afford to spend some time on fixes. … but there is a limit.
In this casd Fedora may be an inappropriate choice of distro for a new user for all sorts of reasons… not just because of printer difficulties
May I suggest marking your jokes accordingly? Remember, sometimes joking might be considered inappropriate.
Maybe @theking2 belongs to the remaining 10% of users. For unknown reasons, he wants or has to use Fedora. His printer was working in the former version of the OS but fails in the current one. I think we have to respect this in the first place, instead of suggesting to switch to another distribution.
As you might know, I’m using LMDE since LMDE2, and I know that all the Mints can print on almost everything connected to them without bigger issues. But this is in no way helpful here. Let’s continue to help @theking2 printing with Fedora.
Oh yes… we will not discontinue trying to help… no matter what distro @theking2 decides to use.
Do you want to try explaining to someone who doesn’t understand “root” how to install a driver from a PPD file?
Sorry - this comes 100% down to “new user using the wrong distro”…
Fedora is supposedly the “bleeding edge” of what Red Hat will incorporate into a subsequent release of RHEL (Red Hat Enterprise Linux)… They’re almost anally obtuse (conservative) about what gets supported… If they didn’t test it - it probably won’t “get in”…
I’ve used Fedora… I worked at a government agency and they offered me a new desktop machine - “do you want Windows 10 or Fedora?” of course I opted for Fedora… but it was a management SOE/MOE completely locked down (with both Puppet enterprise AND Ansible)… I was supporting UNIX and Linux users - so I had “sudo” on a bunch of stuff - but NOT on my Fedora workstation!
2-3 years ago - I distrohopped - I tried Fedora - but when I realised how limited their driver-base was - and if I wanted accelerated GPU performance - I’d have to add a secondary REPO “rpm-fusion” - I thought “hmmm - this is NOT the distro for me” and jumped back to Debian / Ubuntu space… I’d already learned how painful things could get in Ubuntu adding a PPA and then having my whole apt database almost useless… Way back circa 2012/13/14 - if you wanted the proprietary NVidia drivers on Ubuntu - you had to add a PPA… It kinda worked - but it was nasty - and felt half-arsed… Thankfully - Ubuntu incorprated “third party proprietary support” into itself by around Ubuntu 20.04 - maybe even 18.04…
There’s good reasons for Fedora to be conservative - they’re owned by Red Hat, which is now owned by IBM… But they don’t make things easy - and - that’s not their user base… Their user base are probably always pretty tech-savvy… Me? Yeah - I’m probably “tech-savvy” - but I’m also incredibly lazy - and re-installing a different O/S is usually easier - and all my important data is either on my NAS or “in the Cloud” so I don’t lose data - than spending days trying to figure out “what went wrong”…
If you prefer the RPM based package system - there’s always SUSE… SUSE EL was my daily driver desktop Linux circa 2003-2005 (until I discovered Ubuntu)…
I’ve always run “server jobs” on my Linux desktop systems anyway - I’ve never understood the distinction between a server O/S and a desktop O/S anyway - 40 years ago - UNIX workstations displayed a desktop and ran entire departments as servers - simultaneously - even non-SMP systems with a “single core”… A multi-user O/S is a “multi user” system… You could even hack Windows XP to allow multiple simultaneous users - it was simple registry hack - all on a single CPU with a single core! Windows XP was built on the Windows NT kernel which was POSIX compliant…
Me? On my daily driver desktop where things just kinda work - it will always be the ubiquitous Ubuntu, or derivatives like Pop!_OS or elementary… and MINT are doing great things without Ubuntu - as mentioned in an earlier post LMDE7 installer found my printer and installed it - during the install process - I didn’t ask it to do that - it just “DID IT!”…
Printing shouldn’t be rocket science!
And I’m a big fan of Debian anyway…
My thoughts exactly
I am not sure… he used the previous release of Fedora
@theking2 … can you tell us how much linux experience you have?
I’m sorrowful to see the help culture in this forum seems to be degrading. 
Don’t think that is the case.
I originally offered a step by step. Plus a cups solutions and another. This was not reported as followed or working.
Afterward another member gave more details with a step by step including screen shots with click here arrows.
Several others said it worked for them plus the suggestion that he should look to a simpler distribution of Linux where the printer worked.
We can only lead with suggestions it’s then down to the user.
Last week I repaired a brother printer not working on windows. I visited the client 5 times each time it worked. But your later stopped. So my client took it back to the supplier shop. Who confirmed the batch they had received were all 20 faulty with same problem. Love doing internet WiFi connection so they replaced the brother with an Epson which worked first time out of the box and is still working today.
There is only so much we can do at a distance and we all try our very best for each other. Please don’t criticise volunteers we have a great team here a d I am very proud to be able to say there technically knowledge far out strips my own I learn so much from others here.
Let’s encourage contributions from all
Sorry to disagree, but I have read thru this whole thread.
Is it so bad, if a person might be using the wrong tool or don’t know how to use the tool properly, to suggest using another tool (distro).
None of the replies seems degrading to me. Only suggestions. Yes, several posting go off topic, talk about personal experiences, which does not directly help the user with their issue.
Both of you, you don’t have to agree with me.
I omit declaring here what a healthy help culture is. I’m certain it can be found somewhere in the FAQ or TOS of this forum.
User A: I’m driving a Subaru, and I have an issue with…
User B: Who the f*** drives a Subaru nowadays?
User C: I never had an issue with my Mazda. Get a Mazda instead!
User D: All Japanese cars are crappy anyway. Get rid of them ASAP.
And so on…
My personal rule of thumb: Whenever I don’t have enough will, knowledge, or patience to help on a particular topic, I silently leave it alone instead of dropping any unhelpful comments or jokes.
Sorry if I was offending you with my 2 cents.