Let's cheer for Denmark and now France!

I thought it was a competitor with all those … not something that would run on them?
I think you mean will it run on x86, x8-64, arm , whatever mac uses.

Nobody can ever do that, because they keep changing.
How many different wordprocessor formats have they had over the years?

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Its only an office suit not a os

Yes loads but libreoffice will read and write most of them so you can transfer data. But not always formatting

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As ONLYOFFICE itself is free (for individuals on desktop and mobile ONLYOFFICE desktop and mobile apps | ONLYOFFICE ), and based on the github page it seems a fork of it, I’d say it’s going to be free. The upstream has a pricing for enterprises though … but it’s a server instance with support, the “developer” server instances can be grabbed for free as well.

Jitsi meet, Matrix and others can provide alternatives.

If it won’t be cut down, it will. As for Only Office, it works on Linux Windows and Adroid for sure, as I installed it on these platforms - on Linux and Adroid for ourselves, on Windows for others: I can tell it works quite well with original MS Office documents.

Yes, and at the moment this gives the best compatibility with tricky MS Word documents, way much better than what Libre Office does.
According to my subjective perception, OnlyOffice is maybe 99% compatible with MS Office, FreeOffice of Softmaker 90%, Libreoffice 80%…
Usually WPS Office is mentioned among the good alternatives, but it doesn’t “speak” my language, so it’s not a competitor here. :wink:

I suggest to try OnlyOffice, I bet that “EuroOffice” will be very much the same in most regards.

…and whenever someone comes real close, they turn a bit again on something.

Yes, and this is where the compatibility level steps in.
So far OnlyOffice does the best job in rendering a document, so that it looks the same as it would in MS Office.

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Sorry, I read that wrongly.
So where is the free, independent OS?.. I thought that was the goal?

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We already have it, and use it.
Some call it Antix or SuSe, others Garuda or Gentoo, I myself choose Debian.
The common point is that they all are free and independent.

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I thought they were trying to shift Europe off all Microsoft products … including Windows?

Dont they need a package of OS + Office tools + others that all work together?

The European one does not yet exist…

Those are just linux versions for all. The talk is of a euro standard one

The format is just one part, you have the fonts, margins and page layout before you get into macros and linking files

So they may do what I thought and recommend a package … not necessarily their own distro ( that would be a wasted effort) … but maybe a modified Ubuntu or something with all the necessary apps?

I hope it’s a debian in preference

What is EU OS?

EU OS is not a project of the European Union, but it should it be

Fedora based.

Or

But no decision as to who what where when or how

The french Gendarmerie use GendBuntu which is a version of Ubuntu adapted for use by France’s National Gendarmerie.

french administration have chosen NixOS

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OS is not the hard part. There are various contenders in that area who can provide an SLA. Otherwise, they can also make a home-grown one or fork an existing one.

The hard part is Office. NextCloud along with EuroOffice seems the best solution at the moment. Users could then get a thin client running some Linux distribution which they use to log in to their nextcloud account. Everything which matters can then be administrated nice and centrally.

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Agree. There are many suitable existing choices.

What they could maybe do is a package kit ( Office stuff + comms + government requirements) that would be an addon to any of the popular Linuxes.

How they deliver it is an important issue. At the moment Microsoft wins by bundling Win with hardware.

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Amazing.
They cant sit on the fence forever.
EU has to stop holding meetings and act.

Microsoft can do all it want, but if somebody shows up saying “I have 12000 desktops, a few hundred servers, quite the IT staff and I need all of that running Linux in accordance to all our demands and a SLA.” I am sure companies are going to bend over backwards in order to provide exactly that.

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Don’t think you understand the EU concept…why make a decission when we can have a meeting to decide if we have a meeting !

Then in what language do we write it in, currently they use English but that could change, latest idea was Latin!
There are too many players involved now so needs france and Germany to pick and go forward with it. But new president of france next year so we wait. Also we may change priminister again before that happens

Don’t do politics but perhaps you get the idea.

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Agree. A concrete demand will generate a supply.

What about the problem of converting existing equipment.? That requires inhouse expertese which is in short supply. @callpaul.eu might be overworked .

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Sounds exactly like CSIRO.
The more urgent the issue, the faster the cycle of frantic meetings and the less that actually gets done.

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Like the old saying if you want something doing give it to a busy man

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Sounds just like the committees I am a member of. Lots of talk but little action, normally I just go to the meetings listen and the do my own thing.

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No problem! All he needs to do is stop sleeping, and he’ll have eight additional hours he can work in. :joy:

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Thanks good idea, normally I power nap, so will gain 5 mins every day, but I could always swim faster, and paddleboard faster … no end to the time I gain.