Linux puppy the saving tool

Bit of a long story, please bear with me for why.

Yesterday had a windows 11 client unable to access her computer, no internet, no one drive and password forgotten. Ok this is not a windows site but relates to how linux can be used.

Several years ago, I discovered Linux puppy, it was tiny, took no space, did not need installing, ran direct from usb in memory and you could remove the usb after loading. I down .oaded a copy of the iso and created a boot usb key. Then removed all the stuff I just dont need such as word processor, sheadsheet, email, music players, dvd players and recreate the usb with just a file manager, internet access, notepad, almost nothing, so tiny boots in seconds and takes no memory etc. Great little tool but not very good to look at. It was during my learn linux period but had no idea wbat I planned to use it for, just sat on my desk unloved and never updated.

Client arrived with new windows 11 computer which she paid very little for 150 euros, 4gb memory a d 128gb disk very basic entry machine. Unable to access internet, disk showing red NO space, unable to do update, password blocked. End of life, only one usb c port no cd, no ethernet.

Out can puppy, very happy to help.
Boot to usb and got access to the hard disk, deleted all the downloads to get space so it could breath again.
Plugged in a external drive so was able to copy all her photos onto my external disk plus other important documents.
That then gave me space using puppy to download adwcleaner, but malwarebytes and superantispyware refused to down.oad as no space.
Adwcleaner found 12 errors when I booted into windows. Removed them.
Uninstall microsoft office as it was tne trial version and was to pay for.
That gave me space to do malware bytes and antispyware
Both found so many errors
Get rid of them and the antivirus tool avg paid for version.
Now will access the internet and so ccleaner to tidy up register and the system, but still not enough space to do the windows update.

Question why sell a computer with such a small hard disk and windows takes over half the size and will not update.
Why sell with trial versions of office when after 30 days its to pay for?
Why sell with just one usb c port

Cost cost cost.

One drive was also full and google drive the same, too many photos, the technician before me who sold her the box went from a 500 gb drive to 128 ssd never was it going to be enough.

She is now in the process of cleaning up her photos and documents, on phone, computer google and windows drives.

Then to come back and windows goes to be replaced by linux mint debian Edition.

Bottom line of this story, linux puppy saved her day just by being small enough to carry out the repairs needed.

Why not rescue cd or another linux because puppy is tiny and runs totally in memory so freeing the usb port.

Just as a side line my client is a sports coach so has offered free yoga lessons on the beach this summer, may just have to go and watch, not up for joining in at my age ! Like most guys I have no sence of co-ordination and I go right when everybody else goes left, something to do with having 2 left feetā€¦

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What a great story. And your use of Linux convinced her to move to LM. Great job.

Sheila Flanagan

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Woof, woof, woof ā€¦

Good dog !
Special walkies tonight and a doggy treat

Ha ha ha

Dont like the new name of bookwormā€¦

But an interesting history of development
https://puppylinux-woof-ce.github.io/history.html

On another key somewhere i have dam small linux, which i should retry and see that in action, think that was even smaller and fitted onto a memory card like used in photos

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I have always used Knoppix for booting into a systemā€¦ but it is much larger than Puppy.

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Knoppix

Never tried that version

Web sites suggest its not been updated for a few years and very little documentation , but its the same for many, dsl met a similar place. With puppy the original creator stopped several years ago and that could easily have closed the door.

Its a small market for a live cd in a rich linux sea of massive systems. But even then most remail half the size of windows when installed so ideal for cheap small ssd machines

Puppy Linux is maybe the only Australian Linux distro Iā€™m aware of (I could be wrong) - it was started by a Computer Science/Engineering lecturer from Edith Cowan University in West Australia, Barry Kauler.

Heā€™s a really nice bloke too - I had him for x86 Assembly Language Unit when I was at Uni in the early 1990ā€™s - his book was great too - all about x86 assembly.

Heā€™s since retired and no longer maintains Puppy Linux himself - but I believe itā€™s still well maintained by his successor maintainersā€¦

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There is also Porteusā€¦ at least it is actively maintained and it has 64 and 32 bit versions.

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Good looking system perhaps better graphics than puppy.

Slackware linux appears to take very little space but functions fine for these types of jobs

Thanks for the ideas

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We need to do better than thatā€¦ the possibilities are endless Digger Linux, Bushranger Linux, Outback Linux, Kangaroo Linux, ā€¦

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Some contributions to Open Source are Australian, take Samba - that was ā€œTridgeā€ - he was able to reverse engineer (clean room?) SMB protocol so it could be implemented on OSSā€¦

But Tridge created some ā€œill willā€ when he was discoverred to have reverse engineered Bitwarden (sic? bitkeeper?), which Linus was using for Kernel source control - and the vendor removed free access to the product / infrastructure for the kernel maintainers - but - that was a good thing - inspired Linus to develop GIT!

There was an Aussie anaesthetist, from Melbourne, who was also a kernel developerā€¦

Thatā€™s it far as I know?

Oh yeah - thereā€™s a guy I know here in Perth, whoā€™s one of the Squid Proxy developers / maintainers - he used to help us maintain our Squid Proxy running on Solaris for a huge government department (was eventually replaced with something else - probably an ā€œapplianceā€).

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No castlemain XXXX Linux ?
Writen for Sir Les Patterson, by Dame Ednaā€¦

Sorry could not resist Austrailian Culture
No doubt revenge with Pommie jokes

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There was a guy I knew in CSIRO who contributed to the DNS code.

There were some notable works in early hardwareā€¦ CSIRAC and SILLIAC, but then
we opted out of hardware, right when we should have gone flat out.
There was the MicroBee in the 1980ā€™s with its z80 processor

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Royal Linux, of course.

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I was thinking of versions that no longer work such as
Andrew, harry or mememegan linuxā€¦
All stepped down and no longer supported !

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I use System Rescue for many computer rescue/maintenance operations I perform. If youā€™re interested, read the documentation:
click on ā€˜Bookā€™ in the Site Map panel (left).

You can download the Getting Started guide in EPUB, MOBI, or PDF, formats (I use the PDF format here).

Ernie

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With a 128 GB SSD disk she couldnā€™t save her personal files there, someone should have said that she needed an external drive for that purpose.

I have some computers with the same system disk capacity, all with dual.boot, windows 10 and some linux distro, but no personal files there, just the two OSs.

This is a typical case of a misinformed person.

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Windows tak3s so much space on a disk and if you download the update to install such as going from 10 to 11, plus microsoft office plus any other browser etc, its almost imposible never mind a linux partition.

Education after the event is ok but prefer if the seller of the boxes thought more about it.

We went from memory or disk upgrades possible, so change 2 to 4 or for windows 8 gb memory. And hard disks from 320 to 500 to terabytes. But now everything. Is motherboard fixed so no upgrades.

Cloud storage ?
Fine but microsoft or google free space not enough so you rent more, or buy external which in someways defeats laptop portability.

Hi Martins Almeida @Martins_Almeida,
Welcome to the forum

Jorge

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Iā€™ve got one maybe a bit better. Sometime before 2012, 2008 maybe, a friend had just clicked to restore her Windows laptop. Moments later the power went off. Her laptop battery didnā€™t last long enough and she suddenly had a corrupted system, she couldnā€™t restart, it was toast. She called me, told me what had happened and asked for help. I had a very special DVD on hand and took it with me.
A little back story; My friend is totally blind. My friend teaches Windows basics and several common programs to other blind people along with how to use the keyboard to navigate and how to use JAWs, the very expensive but excellent screenreader for the blind and even the deaf-blind to work with Windows PCs. Surprised that even deaf-blind people can use a PC when itā€™s hooked up to a Braille device? The DVD I took along had Vinux, Linux for the visually impaired on it.
I popped that DVD in, booted up, adjusted the BIOS and booted into Vinux. Susan was floored! She listened in pure awe and between the two of us, me coaching and her doing at least half of the keyboard work, we transferred all of her personal files onto several USBs. She had a lot of audio and even quite a few videos for her teaching as well as a lot of class documentation stored. Then, the time consuming chore of reinstalling Windows and her accessible programs like that JAWs. Hours later we transferred her files back and she was a very happy camper! Iā€™d saved the BIOS settings and left the Vinux DVD with her and encouraged her to learn a whole lot more about her Windows file system and to use the Vinux DVD. Her training others got a lot easier as she could now learn and explain in much better detail how Windows and some of the programs worked under the hood. I also explained how she could install ufw and its graphical front end, update it and scan a shutdown Windows system much more effectively than using even safe mode in Windows. I made a document detailing the processes and she saved it to her Windows for future use for herself and others.
The Vinux project folded after 2012 because it was based on Ubuntu and Ubuntu switched to the Unity DE and it was beyond a suppository pain for the developers to switch from the Gnome DE to Unity. Gnome has so much more accessibility friendly themes, settings and features. Theyā€™d thought about switching horses to Linux Mint with the Gnome DE but for some reason crap-canned that route. At any rate, Linux pulled another rabbit out of the hat and I passed that hat on to someone who just couldnā€™t get over how fantastic Linux can be. If her career hadnā€™t been solely about Windows, she would have gleefully dual-booted.

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