At Last I got there thanks again to Linux Format magazine DVD distros. 
Now I can understand why there are so many Minty supporters - presume 19.2 was near as good as 19.3? Found Mint Cinnamon to be very polished and slick and could easily live with it after tweaking FireFox or just ignoring it and using live Tails 4.3 and Tor. ps - faded DVD in picture is from Linux Magazine having MX-Linux on one side with ZorinOS on the flip side.