This is crazy! I just found out that there’s CT (container) on Proxmox for Gentoo. I’ve played with Proxmox a bit to get a self host “feeling” with it. I’ve been trying to get Nextcloud working but no luck yet. Got Owncloud running and managed to send one email to my box with it but didn’t get the 2FA working. Then got bored and “installed” a Gentoo container just because why not if it takes 5 mins. Won’t upgrade it though… 225 packages to go so I just kill it and delete from Proxmox. This is fun!!
In the pic there’s my terminal emulator of my laptop on left up corner, my browser down left and Proxmox in a browser where’s Gentoo container running on my server with just 2 cores and 4GiB RAM.
I really have no idea on Proxmox, but I thought it was for managing servers with lots of containerized apps.
For a home desktop, I wonder what Proxmox offers that could not be obtained with other lower order technologies like virt-manager and docker.
Maybe it is easier to drive?
You can get most distros as a container image on docker hub. A docker container image is not a full distro, eg it does not have a kernel, it uses the hosts kernel.
So is your Gentoo a container or a VM?
A VM would be a full Gentoo with kernel.
it was a container. I don’t know much about Proxmox yet but it sure is nice to use. I have an itch for a new server (used of course) to buy and put Proxmox there. Now it’s on my htpc dual boot so it’s just for learning. Maybe a NUC to run pihole, a backup solution for other computers, nextcloud/owncloud/seafile, wireguard and even have a own www.address.adsfl with SSL certificate. I’m just playing and learning new stuff
Exactly. I do that.
If it is nice to use and not bug ridden , then if is a goer.
I dont really have a reason to try and setup a server at home. One of the considerations with a server is having it running 24/7… have to think about power and noise .
Yeah, power and noise is an issue at home. My goal is to self host my company’s web site, it’s database and all related stuff some day. Then it would be a thing. Now I’m just trying and learning and there’s no need for 24/7 uptime. I pay for it at the moment. (Quite happily, one thing less to stress)
It’s just a thing I would like to achieve some day. To really own my company’s data and be sure it’s safe. Not to have a “man-in-the-middle” company who does it for me.
It’s a whole virtualization “platform” like VMware - but you get the ProxMox equivalent of vSphere or vCenter out of the box - for free… ProxMox runs on top of a modified Debian kernel, the hypervisor is KVM - but its also tailored to do containers as well as VMs…
I’ve used it before… I found it quite robust and “ready for prime time” - but - my job is mostly VMware - so I wanted ESX (and gave up trying to get vSphere running)…
I’d love to have a “lab” with a clustered ProxMox setup (e.g. maybe two mini-PCs or SFF PC’s maxed out with RAM and lotsa cores / threads)…
The “cluster” I was using for ESX, and also Oracle VM for x86 - 10 years ago - was just enough to run a few VMs and test failover…
2 x identical Quad Core i7 systems with 16 GB RAM each booting of CF card - with my FreeNAS NAS as backend storage (NFS).
That’s nowhere NEAR enough to run anything modern!
Reckon I’d need at least 16 threads / cores and 64 GB of RAM and probably have to bump up my storage (e.g. replace the 4 x 4 TB HDD in my NAS with 4 x 8 TB)…
64GB of RAM and a Xeon cpu would be awesome! I’ll try to find a suitable cheap PC for learning this Proxmox thing more. Btw, I was just making a full system upgrade this morning to my laptop. The Rust was the first package but it seems it pulls few versions of it at the same time. Upgrading had been running for 2 hours when I needed to leave to another town. The issue was that Rust was not emerged yet and I needed the laptop with me. I suspended my laptop and when I arrived opened the laptop and thought I need to start from zero but Portage was still continuing from where I left it. Great!
