I just read this report from our local news service
A whole power station, just to run one AI centre !
Water requirements are also a concern.
Should we not be pausing to evaluate this business, instead of rushing into development?
Has anyone calculated the total power requirement for AI centres for the planet?
If it is more than the total input of solar energy, then we are going backwards.
The bigger concern is the purpose. The goal is to use humanity to allow and support building enough AI centres to create ASI or super intelligent AI. Then solve the human longevity problem. Trump, Gates, Altman, Musk etc. the Billionaire class, want to live forever and control the planet. They are all connected to Epstein and all are believers in transhumanism, also known as TESCREAL.
I wish it didn’t sound so out there that even I have trouble believing the reality. Look it up on Wikipedia or do adherent searches.
I wish I didn’t know now what I didn’t know then.
Hi,
Yes there is concern that some further development of AI will outrun human mental ability.
The current LLM has a long way to go to get near tnat.
People with a religious outlook are able to see beyond concerns about our fate in this world.
We do not belong here… that is obvious from the damage we do, to ourselves and to our surroundings.
Tescreal is a materialistic outlook. I think a spiritual outlook is both healthier and closer to the truth.
“The real danger is not that computers will begin to think like men, but that men will begin to think like computers.” Sydney J Harris
With all these datacenters sooner or later people are going to figure out the cost faaaaaar outweigh the benefits.
Already communities are saying no to the datacenters, simply because they’re too big a drain on local resources.
I would love some environmental activists cutting off the water supply of a few of them, or a hacker collective infecting some of them with a virus which destroys their ability to process data in such a way the physical hardware needs to be replaced. I would love such activism to be deployed until those datacenters become a drag on the owner’s bottom line.
Thought the idea was to base them in colder areas to reduce the running costs of cooling. Better idea would be to base them near housing to use the heat generated to warm homes.
But I do question why we need to stock so much on the cloud based systems. I see so many clients who fill there email box, never throw away jokes that they got from friends 10 years ago what a waste of stockage resources. I have yet to use AI no idea why I want it, if I have a Linux question I ask fellow members on this site.
I had to do a internet search on what this was (new word for me) got the following
I read the wiki entry and followed a link to asterisk magazines…. Then decided I was just stupid did not understandanything after the first line of info !
Concentrating so much computing power in one place could cause large outages.
“At least three Amazon data centers have been damaged by Iranian drone strikes since the U.S. attacked Iran”
No need. The hardware has a lifetime of about 5 years.
Can you think of a way of getting rid of all the concrete?
We can recycle their outdated hardware into home systems. They have some you beaut gpu’s.
Wind turbines have the same problem … they last about 15 years … then you have a huge tower and 200tons of concrete to be removed.
Solar units last about 10 years… they are as least easy to remove . Dont know about recycling.
There are some datacentres that are not for AI. How do we distinguish.
Roads. Old concrete is shredded into little pieces fit for road construction and mixed with the tarmacadam.
A dramatic water shutdown (by, for example, filling their water intake with concrete) in order for the full data center to damage the computers in there would be preferred to the cleaner solution of waiting them out. That’s way more effective in hurting their bottom line.
That happens naturally in .au. Droughts lead to water usage restrictions and we resort to expensive desalination plants. There is no indication of how AI centres will cope when the water supply dries up.
Please aim a camera at such a datacenter. I want to see it when the AI datacenter finally burns.
I have absolutely no reason whatsoever to resent these datacenters. I just hate them for their impact to the local environment and total lack of return to investment for the local communities.