The Gentoo Novice

[4dandl4 (Daniel Phillips)]

@daniel.m.tripp

Couple things I DETEST - e.g. the doco mentions setting the root password, and it has a HIDEOUS ENFORCED password complexity that I didn’t invest the time trying to get around (so I basically just used same string twice - which defeats the purpose of enforced password complexity!) - and it fails to mention the default sshd_config disables root access over SSH… I’m usually fine leaving this set as default on Ubuntu / Debian systems - 'cause I always have a user with sudo privileges… But so far I only have root on this system.

@daniel.m.tripp
So, you have a Gentoo Root CLI?

@daniel.m.tripp

and it has a HIDEOUS ENFORCED password complexity

run nano /etc/security/passwdqc.conf and change the enforce=everyone to users save and then run passwd root
I just use rt

@daniel.m.tripp

gentoo-mungrel00 ~ # emerge --ask app-editors/vim

Ttying to emerge vim?
run cd /etc/portage ls
and cd package.use ls
and post you results

[daniel.m.tripp (Dan Tripp)]

@4dandl4

Ttying to emerge vim?
run cd /etc/portage ls
and cd package.use ls
and post you results

gentoo-mungrel00 ~ # cd /etc/portage 
gentoo-mungrel00 /etc/portage # ls
make.conf     package.accept_keywords  package.mask  profile     savedconfig
make.profile  package.license          package.use   repos.conf
gentoo-mungrel00 /etc/portage # cd package.use/
gentoo-mungrel00 /etc/portage/package.use # ls    
00cpu-flags

[4dandl4 (Daniel Phillips)]

OK now run cd package.use ls

[4dandl4 (Daniel Phillips)]

run touch package.use and this should put a file in the package.use directory
verify with ls again

[daniel.m.tripp (Dan Tripp)]

gentoo-mungrel00 /etc/portage/package.use # touch package.use
gentoo-mungrel00 /etc/portage/package.use # ls -al
total 12
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jun 18 11:42 .
drwxr-xr-x 9 root root 4096 Jun 17 06:45 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  104 Jun 17 05:37 00cpu-flags
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root    0 Jun 18 11:42 package.use

[4dandl4 (Daniel Phillips)]

all I need is the package.use ls I do not need the ls -al

[daniel.m.tripp (Dan Tripp)]

gentoo-mungrel00 /etc/portage/package.use # ls
00cpu-flags  package.use

[4dandl4 (Daniel Phillips)]

Ok!!! Now run emerge --ask --pretend app-editors/vim and the dependencies should show again

[daniel.m.tripp (Dan Tripp)]

@4dandl4

emerge --ask --pretend app-editors/vim

gentoo-mungrel00 ~ # emerge --ask --pretend app-editors/vim 

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
Dependency resolution took 2.31 s.

[nomerge       ] app-editors/vim-9.0.1503::gentoo  USE="X acl crypt gpm nls sound -cscope -debug -lua -minimal -perl -python -racket -ruby (-selinux) -tcl -terminal -vim-pager" LUA_SINGLE_TARGET="lua5-1 -lua5-3 -lua5-4 -luajit" PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python3_11 -python3_10" 
[ebuild  N     ]  app-vim/gentoo-syntax-10::gentoo  USE="-ignore-glep31" 21 KiB
[ebuild  N     ]   app-editors/vim-9.0.1503::gentoo  USE="X acl crypt gpm nls sound -cscope -debug -lua -minimal -perl -python -racket -ruby (-selinux) -tcl -terminal -vim-pager" LUA_SINGLE_TARGET="lua5-1 -lua5-3 -lua5-4 -luajit" PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python3_11 -python3_10" 16,615 KiB
[nomerge       ] app-editors/vim-9.0.1503::gentoo  USE="X acl crypt gpm nls sound -cscope -debug -lua -minimal -perl -python -racket -ruby (-selinux) -tcl -terminal -vim-pager" LUA_SINGLE_TARGET="lua5-1 -lua5-3 -lua5-4 -luajit" PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python3_11 -python3_10" 
[nomerge       ]  media-libs/libcanberra-0.30-r7::gentoo  USE="alsa gnome gstreamer gtk3 pulseaudio sound udev -gtk2 -oss -tdb" ABI_X86="(64) -32 (-x32)" 
[nomerge       ]   media-libs/libpulse-16.1-r2::gentoo  USE="X asyncns dbus glib gtk systemd -doc (-selinux) -test -valgrind" ABI_X86="(64) -32 (-x32)" 
[ebuild  N     ]    media-sound/pulseaudio-daemon-16.1-r7::gentoo  USE="X alsa alsa-plugin asyncns bluetooth dbus gdbm glib gstreamer orc ssl systemd udev webrtc-aec -aptx (-elogind) -equalizer -fftw -jack -ldac -lirc -ofono-headset (-oss) (-selinux) -sox (-system-wide) -tcpd -test -valgrind -zeroconf" 1,510 KiB
[ebuild  N     ]     media-plugins/alsa-plugins-1.2.7.1-r1::gentoo  USE="mix pulseaudio usb_stream -arcam_av -debug -ffmpeg -jack -libsamplerate -oss -speex" ABI_X86="(64) -32 (-x32)" 400 KiB
[ebuild  N     ]     media-libs/libsndfile-1.2.0::gentoo  USE="alsa -minimal -sqlite -test" ABI_X86="(64) -32 (-x32)" 714 KiB
[ebuild  N     ]      media-sound/mpg123-1.31.3::gentoo  USE="alsa ipv6 pulseaudio sdl (-coreaudio) -int-quality -jack -nas -oss -portaudio" ABI_X86="(64) -32 (-x32)" CPU_FLAGS_X86="sse (-3dnow) (-3dnowext) (-mmx)" 1,069 KiB
[ebuild  N     ]       media-libs/libsdl2-2.26.2::gentoo  USE="X alsa dbus gles2 joystick opengl pulseaudio sound threads udev video vulkan wayland (-aqua) (-custom-cflags) -doc -fcitx4 -gles1 -haptic -ibus -jack -kms -libsamplerate -nas -oss -pipewire -sndio -static-libs -xscreensaver" ABI_X86="(64) -32 (-x32)" CPU_FLAGS_X86="mmx sse sse2 -3dnow" VIDEO_CARDS="(-vc4)" 7,895 KiB
[ebuild  N     ]  media-libs/libcanberra-0.30-r7::gentoo  USE="alsa gnome gstreamer gtk3 pulseaudio sound udev -gtk2 -oss -tdb" ABI_X86="(64) -32 (-x32)" 312 KiB
[nomerge       ] media-sound/mpg123-1.31.3::gentoo  USE="alsa ipv6 pulseaudio sdl (-coreaudio) -int-quality -jack -nas -oss -portaudio" ABI_X86="(64) -32 (-x32)" CPU_FLAGS_X86="sse (-3dnow) (-3dnowext) (-mmx)" 
[ebuild  N     ]  media-sound/pulseaudio-16.1::gentoo  USE="bluetooth glib -daemon -jack -ofono-headset" ABI_X86="(64) -32 (-x32)" 0 KiB
[ebuild  N     ]   media-libs/libpulse-16.1-r2::gentoo  USE="X asyncns dbus glib gtk systemd -doc (-selinux) -test -valgrind" ABI_X86="(64) -32 (-x32)" 0 KiB

Total: 10 packages (10 new), Size of downloads: 28,532 KiB

 * Error: circular dependencies:

(media-libs/libsndfile-1.2.0:0/0::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) depends on
 (media-sound/mpg123-1.31.3:0/0::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) (buildtime_slot_op)
  (media-sound/pulseaudio-16.1:0/0::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) (buildtime)
   (media-libs/libpulse-16.1-r2:0/0::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) (buildtime)
    (media-libs/libsndfile-1.2.0:0/0::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) (buildtime)

It might be possible to break this cycle
by applying any of the following changes:
- media-libs/libsndfile-1.2.0 (Change USE: +minimal)
- media-sound/mpg123-1.31.3 (Change USE: -pulseaudio)

Note that this change can be reverted, once the package has been installed.

Note that the dependency graph contains a lot of cycles.
Several changes might be required to resolve all cycles.
Temporarily changing some use flag for all packages might be the better option.

Output doesn’t look vastly different from what I’d seen before…

[4dandl4 (Daniel Phillips)]

OK, You are logged into your root account? At this point with Gentoo I will do a emerge -avuND world and this will update your packages. You are going to need a user account, before you start installing a lot of packages, including vim.
We will get to vim!!!
Update your packages with emerge -avuND world
Seup user account with useradd -m -G users,wheel,video,audio,portage,cdrom,usb -s /bin/bash your user name
passwd your user name
emerge --ask app-admin/sudo
visudo /etc/sudoers to edit the sudoers file
If all goes well reboot and login to you user account
We can then move on to the important stuff

[daniel.m.tripp (Dan Tripp)]

Cheers mate - I might leave that till tomorrow or the day after…

do all that without vi, will be tiring

I’m 100% comfortable with useradd, visudo (except I won’t be able to “export EDITOR=vi”) et cetera…

Cheers for all your help so far…

This isn’t very “UNIX” - needing a user subsystem to have a basic text editor vi… I assume that emacs would be even harder? I guess I can’t complain, imagine if gentoo made everyone use “ex”…

[4dandl4 (Daniel Phillips)]

@daniel.m.tripp

do all that without vi, will be tiring

trust me you will not need vi you can even use nano to edit /etc/sudoers

[nevj (Neville Jackson)]

@daniel.m.tripp

gentoo-mungrel00 ~ # emerge --ask app-editors/vim

 * IMPORTANT: 1 news items need reading for repository 'gentoo'.
-- snip snip --
!!! The following installed packages are masked:
- app-admin/eselect-1.4.22::gentoo (masked by: package.mask)
/var/db/repos/gentoo/profiles/package.mask
-- snip snip --

So I have to use nano to unmask it??? in /var/db/repos/gentoo/profiles/package.mask ? How do I do that?

No, no. That is not vim being masked, it is something else.

 * Error: circular dependencies:

(media-libs/libsndfile-1.2.0:0/0::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) depends on
 (media-sound/mpg123-1.31.3:0/0::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) (buildtime_slot_op)
  (media-sound/pulseaudio-16.1:0/0::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) (buildtime)
   (media-libs/libpulse-16.1-r2:0/0::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) (buildtime)
    (media-libs/libsndfile-1.2.0:0/0::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) (buildtime)

@4dandl4 answered that for me
OK take redistributable pulseaudio out of make.conf and rerun emerge -avuND world.
So remove those use flags.

[4dandl4 (Daniel Phillips)]

@nevj

No, no. That is not vim being masked, it is something else.

Yes it is, daniel needs to setup his user account before moving on!!!

[nevj (Neville Jackson)]

@4dandl4

@nevj

No, no. That is not vim being masked, it is something else.

Yes it is,

!!! The following installed packages are masked:
- app-admin/eselect-1.4.22::gentoo (masked by: package.mask)

It says it is masking eselect ?

I agree he needs a user before doing emerge

[4dandl4 (Daniel Phillips)]

@nevj
I got hit with the sys-devel/llvm and sys-devel/clang update with my Gentoo, it is taking a little time too emerge -avuND world.

[nevj (Neville Jackson)]

@4dandl4

I got hit with the sys-devel/llvm and sys-devel/clang update

How did you come to use llvm compiler? Mine uses gcc.

I think I understand that masking. It has turned off eselect to stop all installs because there is no user. What do you think? That is a rather backhanded approach.

[4dandl4 (Daniel Phillips)]

@nevj

How did you come to use llvm compiler? Mine uses gcc.

I have no idea but one of my use flags must need as a dependence.

@nevj

I think I understand that masking.

Their are Gentoo restrictions when using the root account. I add the Gentoo user account as soon as I have the Gentoo CLI compiled, along with sudo.

[berninghausen (Bill Berninghausen)]

Wow. I’m glad I have my golf game for my unsolvable problem. It’s easier than Gentoo. My computers are quite content with any .deb distro.

[4dandl4 (Daniel Phillips)]

@berninghausen and @easyt50
Oh come on try Gentoo in VirtualBox, we can then have a round house Gentoo discussion group. Never be content with the distro you are running.