The use of artificielle intelligence in creation of images or text

My wife loves to write and quite often enters competitions against others where the subject is given and they then have to write text to fit the rules. So for example 750 words, short story on the start of the day, or the end of the day ….. etc.

Some rules exist such as it must be about one person, or a family again the competition States the rules.

Now she has noticed that some will say your own work, or no more than 50% aided by artificiel intelligence. But how do they know how is it tested. She asked me !

In wordprocessing you can switch révision marking and I know you have written the first lind, then someone else has added line 2 and the spell check has changed that word or the thesarus has changed that text etc But AI ?

Just to add to the question.

She is writing a book with her daughter, a colouring book for adults (Yes there is a market please dont ask I know nothing) so she write the subject material and needs a image to go with it, the book is on old disappeared skills such as farming by hand using a cow to pull the plow before a tractor. So onto AI get it to draw such an image. Who owns the copyright of the image, her for the idea, AI for drawing it, and if she publishes it is that legal. If she used a photo it would have behind it date, equipment used, geo localisation etc. But does AI have the same.

just to clarify she does it for fun no prize, no payment, not sure if they will go to print

it was an interesting conversation over the evening meal which I could not answer.

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If she used the “free” version of the AI, the AI company claims ownership. However, publishers and artists whose works have been used as training data might have something to say about this.

There are already court cases where creators sued AI companies and won, resulting in lots of damages. It’s not far fetched for creators to start suing “authors” of AI slop.

This results in your wife’s work being in a legal grey area; that is, if she decides to publish. Artists might find it really similar to their own work and sue her if she makes (in their eyes) too much money from, what they perceive as, their work.

Does she need to worry? I don’t think so, unless she decides to publish for money. In that case she might open a can of worms she would not appreciate.

The intellectual property rights around AI haven’t been hashed out that well yet. People are still figuring out who is the owner in which case.

I’d go with a real artist; somebody who has a unique style and signature. It’ll be that much more satisfying to finish the book. There’s loads of hobbyist artists out there offering their services for a low price or even for free. She’d give someone something real to do, and she’d get an actual unique work as a result (and a new contact, if the work is satisfactory).

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Thanks for your detailed answer. She has no real plans to publish or sell, its a learning exercise for her. I am encouraging her to do one to the finish and get it on Amazon as a kindle download for free so she sees how it fits together and the colouring book with images again on Amazon for free as page layout, numbering, covers, margins, binding guttering are all terms I know and understand but its a different language and concept for her.

In the past she has done painting, Stone carving, origami, pottery, mosaïque, ….. learning skills in her retirement plus is a wonder at languages, Italian spanish Greek portugais english as well as her native french.

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AI cant draw an image with no instructions.
How do you tell it what to draw?
Is it not just another drawing tool?
Compare it with using Blender to make drawing. Noone considers Blender to own the copyright. The copyright is owned by the creator ( the one who contributes the creative content). AI is tool, not a creator.

Think of what would happen if one AI program talked to another AI program and asked it to draw something. Who would own it then?
Stupid question. The result would be non-creative… ie not worth owning.

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Don’t know if this help, but a person can also do a search on the internet.
Like ‘copyright free images of a cow’ and I got lots of hits. I sure other images can be found that be used for free.

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She tells me that she describes the image she wants, more details better image. So animal with 4 legs may give a dog or a horse or a cow, but if she then adds being milked she gets a cow, but if she then adds being milked by a old woman…. She also can say line drawing no colour…..

No such thing

Within our association thats what our creator of posters for events now does before I pointed out copyright she was just ripping off artwork from anywhere even if it had the notice across it such as shutterstock. We never got caught or asked but I refused to use them on the web site until she realised the error, no one had told her before.

I dont see the point of putting an image on the internet if noone is allowed to use it. It is supposed to be a public domain.

I can generate an exact replica of a shutterstock image, without copying it, and without the watermark.
Here is how to do it. lets say it is a 1000 x 1000 image. For each of those pixels there are R,G, B values, so 256 x 256 x 256 possible colours. All I need to do is generate all possible 1000 x 1000 x 256 x 256 x 256 images. Then I merely have to sort thru all those and find the one which exactly matches the desired shutterstock image. Simple search. I did not copy it, I created it independently.

Same applies to any book or movie… I can generate any creative work by generating all possible works, then searching.

So what is copyright protecting and what is creativity? It is something to do with shortcutting the search?.. choosing one thing from a zillion possibilities.

You may not like my mathematics of creativity, but you cant escape it.

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I suggested shutterstock as by de fault if you search they are one of the top to appear. The person responsable for poster création had never been told not to break copyright but now has. She just wanted a image of a couple dancing for a music poster and did not have time or skills or knowledge to do any different. Now she included the word royalties free images on my guidance.

We dont have money to pay for images nor fight a legal case for miss use.

If there is an image someone should pay for the time involved in its création just like any work.

Interesting we were looking for music and song création for our 50tb year celebration this summer and others were trying AI to generate, most will allow a song in the form “pop music” but if you ask for the style “ymca song” no !

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There’s a difference between actual intent for creativity and an infinite amount of monkeys bangang away at aa keyboard.

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Ah, I thought you might react to that.
It is like cracking a password by brute force
versus
having some creative idea or an algorithm that you can use to construct the password.

I am not running down creativity. I am defining creativity as finding a way of making an intelligent choice among an almost infinite number of possibilities.

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Anyway; I can answer the first half, sort of! How do they know it’s AI? Well, they don’t. Not 100%. But they have a very good idea when it is.

For context, I’m also very interested in writing, literary magazines, etc. I’ve been published in quite a number over the years and have been on the selection committee for several as well. Some of these litmags have seen submission rates increased x100 over the last few years, as LLMs became more publicly accessible, which can be a massive strain on our resources.

There is no single, foolproof detection-method. However, there’s a number of ways I’d identify AI prose both just semantically and with tools.

  1. You can scan content with AI detectors. GPTZero, Copyleaks, Pangram, etc. There’s loads of them. If you search them up, you’ll see a lot of chatter about how they’re notoriously unreliable… But that’s mainly false negatives. When GPTZero, for example, flags something as AI-written, it’s unlikely to be wrong. Then if you’ve tried it across multiple detectors that use different algorithms, it’s a bit like a false positive across multiple pregnancy tests - not impossible, but increasingly implausible.
  2. You can request drafts, notes, or even a manuscript with Track Changes; if someone uses AI, it’s typically unlikely (though again, not impossible) they’re going to have the detailed notes associated with human-written content. Track Changes is an interesting one as it shows someone the various sentences, backspaces, line edits. AI written prose is generally pasted in in a few chunks, written very Beginning-Middle-End with no drafting or jumping around, and so on…

But to be honest, the first sift is mainly just through authorial cadence and AI tells in prose.

When you read a lot of it, you see a lot of the same ticks over and over and over across submissions. AI isn’t ‘writing’ in the sense you or I would write? It’s a probabilistic pattern engine and it selects the next most likely word based on the prompt and the training data. Yeah, okay, the training corpus is huge, but because of that you actually get much more literary convergence. It regresses to the mean. You can’t really tell it ‘use a literary style, not AI prose’ because it’s blending together all these millions of training samples and selecting from that smooth, frequent middle of moderate sentence length, a particular rhythm, specific character archetypes. Factor in frequency bias, the way models favour statistically strong signals, and optimisation for safe, clear, ‘helpful’ prose… and you end up with this quite specifically blah and bland prose style common across Claude output, ChatGPT output, etc.

Humans do a lot of this too, to an extent. Seeing three or four of these really common AI ticks isn’t enough to say “well, this must be AI’“. But if I see repeated and condensed AI patterns across the prose, well, it’s going in the ‘probably AI’ pile for further investigation.

Shy Girl is a novel that got a lot of attention for this recently, and is a good example of this flavour of “AI Prose”!

Aside from the prose itself, you’ve also got the way it pushes characters towards archetypes with little nuance. Dialogue can be repetitive or not make logical sense (replying to things that haven’t happened yet, characters spout dialogue that sounds right, but is actually a total non sequitar when you think about it), they have knowledge that they couldn’t possibly have in context, make wildly accurate assumptions, everyone has that same Marvel Dialogue quippiness… I could go on. Again, not a sign in and of itself, but when you’ve got fifteen of 4o’s favourite lines in four paragraphs and then your characters are saying things like: “You’re a menace” four times in a row… yeah, it’s going in the pile.

It’s an interesting dilemma, though frustrating when you’re doing the sift. Competitions or mags that pay out cash prizes are often totally inundated with unedited, AI slop.

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Hi and welcome

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Thanks for your contribution look forward to reading more from you

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I have done statistical classification work with training data. Not as sophisticated as AI, but the same principles. It was very difficult to get it any better than about 80 percent success.

Welcome and thanks for the contribution
Regards,
Neville

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Thank you for posting the interesting topic :slight_smile:

Thank you for the welcome, Neville! Yeah, I imagine that must’ve been an interesting and possibly frustrating experience? A lot of the folks who submit AI to these competitions as well are hitting as many possible, so there’s not really much editing or refinement, which makes it even more obvious it’s AI.

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