Why do people have such an unreasonable bias against Ubuntu?

I am a Linux user, as well as a Windows 11 user. Since I work from home, I think it’s better to have two laptops for safety, in case one breaks… I have a lot of trouble choosing between Debian, Ubuntu and Fedora. I’m currently using Ubuntu, for some reason I didn’t like Fedora 42, and I’m still going to try Debian 13…
But on my Ubuntu, everything works as expected, just as it does on my Windows 11.

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@callpaul.eu
That has nothing to do with what I am saying!!! You give me a reason why I should build my next PC, using only Linux!!! I have yet to find it!!!

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I think they will get it up to standard eventually. Canonical are trying, and it is not in their interests to have the snaps initiative fail.
Most new technologies start out with problems. They ard best avoided in the early stages.

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They are paying for a service that Linux users get for free. Theft by deception.

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Sorry Daniel, did not want to single you out or offend you.

Most of the people I see only use about 10 % of the capacity of the computer and could do it all on a android tablet if the screens were bigger to help vision.

For mail, internet, odd document then it would not matter what was chosen.

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I tried doing my work on an Android tablet. Big fail. I had a separate Logitech keyboard for my tablet (a Samsung Galaxy Note 8 iirc). Oddly enough, the fail was not because of the size of things. I’m visually impaired, Android has some functionality to resize things and most apps resize right along without any trouble.

No, the problem was more the ToS of the software I needed (Campfire Write, nothing else was suitable). Now, they didn’t exactly have an app which worked on the tablet, but making a PWA of their website worked just fine.

Android works great for most stuff, but for writing you need a decent keyboard. Those are few and far between. So, back to my trusty PC, where I was running Linux (flawlessly, by the way) and had a nice mechanical keyboard. Typing works better than on the Android tablet.

NovelWriter is a great application which works on Windows, Linux (deb, AppImage), and Mac. It’s developed on Linux however and the developer hasn’t got access to a Mac. Mac support was added when a drive-by developer helped out with that. Needless to say, that developer is gone now. Nevertheless, NW is still a great application on all three platforms and its maintainer is quite active.

As for being decieved, all Linux users fall into that category!!!

@Daniel_Phillips I feel offended by being called deceived. Please don’t generalize on the basis of what OS people choose to use.

I use Linux because it’s GUI (Cinnamon, in my case) stays the same across iterations. I don’t need (nor want) to jump through hoops in order to get a usable system, nor do I want my GUI to change with every iteration of the OS. Linux Mint is usable out of the box. No need to do anything other than install the stuff I want.

NovelWriter, the application I need, isn’t packaged in the repositories, so I get it directly from its maintainer as a .deb file. Works flawlessly and I don’t need to leave the GUI to install/update/uninstall it. Quite convenient.

Personally, I am puzzled by most Windows users for quite a while now. They tolerate all kinds of crap being pulled by Microsoft - such as obsolescence of a perfectly good computer they bought six months before the introduction of Windows 11 and ads being inserted in the OS. On top of that, the ToS of Windows leaves nothing to the imagination: when things go wrong, it’s entirely your problem… for a paid product, mind! Oh, and you don’t own your copy of Windows, you’ve got a license to use it - which can be revoked at any time without explanation. Microsoft doesn’t even guarantee Windows is fit for any particular purpose! Mind: you paid for that OS.

I think we can safely agree Windows users are the deceived people here, based on the evidence I provided above. Would you tolerate the exact same I outlined above from say… the provider of your car?

Yes, I built a your car for you, but you don’t own it. On top of that I do not guarantee it’s fit to drive in and I am allowed to disable it at any moment I see fit. You’re also not allowed to modify it.

You would be up in arms, but regarding paid for computer operating systems, which could cause a fire in the right circumstances, you’re all of a sudden like “yeah, not having any recourse when things go awry is a-ok.”

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That is a big issue with modern tractors. Electronic controls are taking maintenance out of the hands of owners.

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I just read this on Reddit. Very well written I think. @callpaul.eu might like it.

Ubuntu needs more justice - thought from 10+ year Mint user now coming back to Ubuntu.
First off, I am all for diversification and innovation. Thanks to that, we have a rich set of Linux distros for everyone to try. This isn’t a distro-war post; I just want to share my recent experience.

I often see people getting lost in the minor details of this distro versus that, forgetting the overall goodness. And Ubuntu is a notice example for such “abuse”.

My first encounter with Ubuntu was about 15 years ago, during my first year of college. At the time, it was pretty buggy and cumbersome with Unity desktop, to say the least. When I discovered Linux Mint several years later, I switched completely. It was a perfect match for my needs: stability, simplicity, and robustness. While I enjoy tinkering and customization, my primary need has always been a stable, “just works” OS for my software engineering job.

For that reason, Arch Linux and similar distros are out of the question. So why not Fedora or others? I have a certain preference for the UI/UX, color palette, and theming of Debian-based systems; they’ve always fit my personal taste.

In the past, for budgetary reason, my laptops were usually 3+ years old from release date, so Mint and its older kernel were never an issue. However, I just purchased a new ThinkPad, and the kernel in the latest Linux Mint release (6.1.x) created a lot of incompatibility issues. I was forced to switch to a distro with a newer kernel and decided to give Ubuntu another try, mainly to see if a newer kernel would solve the problem.

When I finished installing it and started exploring, my first impression was, “Whoa.” It was so much better than I expected. No more of Unity’s cumbersomeness and bugs. The 24.04 LTS comes with a version of GNOME that is robust and sleek, and the animations are awesome. After installing tools like the Extension Manager and “Dash to Panel,” I have a ton of flexibility in managing my workspace, which enhances the experience even more. I have to say, I feel even more comfortable with Ubuntu than I did with Mint LTS, my friend for the last 10 years!

This new experience is quite powerful, especially since my initial, not-so-good impression of Ubuntu had been lingering all this time. You know how first impressions are.

Of course, it’s not perfect. There’s still some compatibility issue with Wayland, as I had to disable it to prevent
frequent freezing when booting. But for my first week, everything is working surprisingly well.

FYI: My desk setup with Ubuntu 24.04 LTS.

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fnew-z16-gen-2-owner-brand-new-what-a-machine-for-the-steal-v0-4x8lwpxzem5f1.jpg%3Fwidth%3D1080%26crop%3Dsmart%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3D84380b8bf894188bd4ea768a58c9935cc2d21d72

Thank you to the Ubuntu team for creating such a great product! Keep up the great work.

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Yes, it is unbiased.
I feel that quite a number of distros have made that sort of progress recently.
What do others feel… are things improving? Think back about 5 years… what was it like then?

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Thanks for thinking of me

I could use ubuntu with mate or cinnamon desktop but having gone down lmde will stick with it whilst it offers me the service dont like jumping ships for the sake of it and lazy in support as I know where most things are to help others

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Absolutely. You don’t switch horses in the middle of the stream.

It’s good to have options for those occasions something isn’t quite right on a particular laptop or desktop when you try your old, trusty default.

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Another Ubuntu success story. Read a few of the comments. This has been my Ubuntu experience.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/1me0l21/i_was_wrong_forgive_me/?post_fullname=t3_1me0l21&post_index=0

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Can you copy that story here? I simply won’t click on links to reddit.

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Here is the post.

I was wrong forgive me

My first linux distro was linux mint and have been distro hopping but mostly settled on Debian(bookworm and later on trixie) for a couple month’s or so but I decided to try Ubuntu for one last time, I was skeptical of using Ubuntu again because of snaps and all the decisions Canonical made in the past year.

But now after installing 25.04 on my spare SSD I think snaps are great maybe on par with flatpaks but that’s just me, so far its been a great experience unlike the past year where in I just gave up and decided to just find another distro because of how snaps are so slow and how integrated it is in the system, I hope Canonical keeps up the improvements.

Some of the best stuff is in the comments though. Most agreeing with the OP and relating a similar story.

privinci

2d ago
basically like my experience. when i first decided to move to linux i avoided ubuntu because i believed what other people said in forums about ubuntu and snap bad blah blah blah. ubuntu is now my daily os and i am very satisfied

bmullan

2d ago
I never have understood all the people that grouse about snaps versus flatpaks.

I’m old fashioned I guess but I think for every problem you use whatever tool is in the toolbox that does best job of solving the problem.

I use snaps, flatpaks, incus, docker, LXD etc.

Just don’t get the whole “choose one or the other mentality”

960be6dde311

2d ago
Same here except I don’t use flatpak for anything.

grouillier

2d ago
Purposely, or that is just how things have worked out? If you intentionally avoid flatpaks, do you have specific reasons? I’ve settled on Ubuntu MATE as my preferred distribution, and it uses snaps. But I’m not religious about it; if MATE switched to flatpaks, I’d use that.

960be6dde311

1d ago
I just haven’t had a need to use them at all. I only run Ubuntu Server.

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I dont have a problem with Ubuntu, started with that but did not like the desktop layout, so moved to mint which is based on Ubuntu, but then started to have issues. So now standardised on linux mint debian édition.

Not sure I like the way Ubuntu is going, but cannot put my finger on what. I did drop by the site a few days ago to get the latest version and found it complex to navigate so in the end gave up, could not waste the effort. Thinking of new users they may never get it. Plus there are so many versions it’s complex to choose. Lubuntu OK can come with that but the others to much effort.

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I’m probably going Ubuntu (Gnome - i.e. default desktop) 24.04.2 when I get around to rebuilding my main desktop machine (from Pop!_OS)…

I found finding the download a no-brainer… I guess it’s a different story if you want one of the other variants (Xubuntu, Lubuntu, Kubuntu - or whatever)…

Top of the main page :

Screenshot from 2025-08-03 14-20-10

Then hit the big orange label “Download Ubuntu Desktop” :

I guess if I wanted arm64 - I’d have to go for “Ubuntu flavors”… But 95% of people are going to be going for amd64 (or x86_64).

Snaps used to bother me and I noticed they were slower to load than non-snap applications… But that was back before had a Ryzen 7 - probably when my main desktop was an AMD Phenom II… I never really notice any lag on anything these days whether it’s snap or installed via package manager…

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Thanks for the guide images

Just thought for a new users with all the options, flavour, desktop, server, pi, windows mac ……

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Just ordered a 2TB NVMe PCIe SSD for my desktop machine…

When it arrives - will move my existing 1 TB one (with Pop!_OS 22.04) to the 2nd PCIe 3.0 slot and install Ubuntu 24.04 on the new SSD in the PCIe 4 slot…

Got a Kingston SSD - like ~$80 cheaper than a Samsung EVO 990 2 TB (which does PCIe 5 - but my mobo only does PCIe 4 anyway).

If I dual boot - I’ll probably just use my BIOS / UEFI - not Grub… but it’s mostly just so it’s easier to copy my Steam games library (and savegames) from one SSD to the other…

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I don’t do much gaming anymore but did fire up Steam and Half-Life 2: Lost Coast over the weekend. I’m running Ubuntu 24.04 LTS on my home laptop and was kind of surprised to see it automatically using the nVidia graphics automatically. I ran the Mission Center flatpak on one screen and the game on another. I could see the nVidia utilization rise when running the game. I don’t normally see that happen when watching videos on YouTube or something similar. Maybe you won’t need to dual boot to Pop_OS! for that reason.

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I don’t dual boot - period… I have an AMD GPU - so I don’t need to worry about drivers…

But with a 2nd SSD - I can dual boot if I need (hoping I won’t have to)… But will eventually format that 1 TB drive once I’ve got everything I need in Ubuntu 24.04 on my 2 TB SSD…

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