Its strange what an update can do

The log says errors with Wayland and qt. Most probably the kwin is not installed or there’s some error in it’s install. Try to install kwin. I’m not sure if your update made a switch from Xorg to Wayland.

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Note… it says problems with certificates… some downloads will fail.
I would not waste time trying to fix it. Go back to last working version and wait

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I stand corrected, thanks Neville! I just saw it and wayland :sweat_smile: Maybe because I’ve had issues with some old software which was on qt5 and my system is on qt6

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yes i will wait untill it gets fixed. Its not worth the effort now with this many errors

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I know what could happened (it happened in Ubuntu). when you do an update of the packages you are not releasing the old packages

In Fedora I always use:

sudo dnf update
sudo dnf clean all <-- run this rigth now

The problem is when your ssd is running out of space and is not possible load the GUI
Once free some space all work fine. I have this experience twice in two different machines.

HTH

Pls, share the Fedora’s URL here too

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i do have space i installed it on a 1 tb nvme ssd disk.

I dont know if this is the url you wanted.

or this

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I never heard of such (and doubt) a requirement.

But of course, it’s the user’s or admin’s obligation to check the free space on the system disk before any update.

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Like i said i installed it on a 1 tb nvme ssd disk so there was plenty of room. And even after a fresh install it was the same

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And with al the trouble i had with it now im not sure i will use it again. I got cachyos and thats good enough for me right now .

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So time to distro hop? I have never used Fedora. It feels wrong to be a tester for a big tech company.

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No i will take it easy this has drained me mentaly i feel very tired.

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And i do use bleach it

Is forks and distros based on for example ubuntu and fedora also big tech company?

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Fedora is the testing version of Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL).

i.e. users running Fedora are beta testers of RHEL… Red Hat is owned by IBM…

And RHEL is the basis for some other distros too, like Orrible (sic : Oracle) and AMZN (Amazon Linux) and Azure Linux (microsoft’s Linux). It’s odd that Microsoft went for RPM based, the first versions of WSL were Ubuntu based…

Personally - I’m agnostic - but I prefer Debian / Ubuntu and apt/deb VS RHEL / Fedora and rpm/yum/dnf…

Most of my job involves RHEL servers… If I was an architect - I’d be opting for, and pushing, Ubuntu server, or Debian Stable “headless”…

You could say that Canonical (Ubuntu) are a big tech company, but they’re tiny compared to IBM…

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What I meant saying not wanting to be a tester for RHEL (company behind Fedora). Fedora Project - Wikipedia

Ubuntu sells their product but they are based on Debian so they are a fork. Both companies “gives back” to Linux community so they are not “bad” for FOSS.

Linus Torvalds used Fedora at some point. Not sure if he has changed to something else.

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OK. I knew red hat was big and owned by IBM but didn’t know they where that big business like. my first PC i bought was an black IBM back in 2000 with an 100gb hard drive lol .

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Yes I know Linus Torvalds use or used Fedora . what i meant was if i for example use Nobara which is based on fedora does that count as im a tester for red hat or if i use popos which is based on Ubuntu that im a tester for Canonical,and i read now the privacy policy for fedora and did not like it at al.

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If you use any distro, you are in one sense a tester for that distro
but , in another sense
Some developers are notorious for putting ouf half-baked products and letting users find the faults.
Debian tries very hard not to treat its users as testers. Debian is the benchmark. All others fall somewhere below that.

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ah ok.which ones half baked then just so i know.

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When you use any fork the fork’s developers make some modifys to the original so yes, you are a tester in that sense. But forks are always behind the original distro and there’s some developers in between who do the heavy lifting for you.

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