OK, I stand corrected on that.
Does any DE comply with these standards?
I dont like it either. You go to some websites for major FOSS products and all you can view is pretty pictures and hyped claims.
At least on Github you can see the code and a README file
What I meant by that is in almost every text editor, word processor, or paint program you can hitâŚ
ALT-F for the file menu
CTRL-O to open a file
CTRL-S to save a file
CTRL-P to print a file
F1 for help.
ALT-F4 to close a program
CTRL-F4 to close a document
There is usually an icon or widget in the upper right corner of a program window used to close it, another to maximize it, and another to minimize it.
You can usually click and drag a programâs title bar to move the window or click and drag the edge of a window to resize it.
There have been some notable exceptions. WordPerfect is a perfect example of that. I think F3 was help for some strange reason.
Like I said before though, Iâm not sure I would call these standards. More like conventions, I guess.
But about 35 years ago I worked on a desktop insurance application that ran in a TUI (of course, this was about the time Windows 1.0 came out), and there was a standard from IBM called the Common User Access (CUA). It laid out those and other key combinations and menu options that should be used.
And it was about the same time that the Air Force introduced keyboards, CRTs, disks, and Windows 1.0. All of those commands were there, but I found that mouse clicks were more in my work flow, particularly with the earliest form of Office. Everything grew up together.
Nobody ever told me that.
Maybe I need to go to DE school
Perhaps this explains my ignorance
" CUA never had significant impact on the design of Unix terminal (character-mode) applications, which preceded CUA by more than a decade.[citation needed] However, all major Unix GUI environments/toolkits, whether or not based on the X Window System, have featured varying levels of CUA compatibility,"
As far as I can see, a Window system is a way having more than one terminal on a screen. Anything beyond that is optional.
Sorry standard WordPerfect used F1 for help. But if you change the default to the standard by word it became F3 but cannot remember why as F1 in word 5 for dos was also help.
Most keys are easy to remember if you are English like file open etc but print as P for french is imprimante(feminine) so not easy to do by default would imagine itâs different in other languages also
But still better than f?
Sorry was I just saying that from memory. I looked it up and maybe I was thinking of WordStar. Copilot says they used F3 for help.
Not important who give a F1 ⌠ha ha ha
It was a strange system and adopted by so many, but when windows came, up against microsoft and lotus they did not stand a chance.
Surprised its still available against other tools
Those CTRL and ALT things are keyboard extensions⌠not really part of the GUI.
Where are the GUI standards? I guess in Unix they are the widgets⌠the Xaw library and friends⌠probably all of X11. That still allows a lot of variations.
You cant have configurability and standards. One will dominate.
Most Linux DEâs go for configurability, but Win is more rigid.
Maybe that is why more people dont use Linux? Are they scared of config?
They are probably convinced Linux is âthat difficult thing where you need to manually need to enter commands.â It doesnât matter this isnât actually true.
On top of that, they tend to stick with what they got with their computer.
Mental inertia is the most human of the deadly sins.
It is called Sloth⌠No 7 on the list
To most people a computer is just a tool to get done what they need to do. They donât care what OS it runs, itâs just a computer. Itâs not lazyness.
Its living in a rut. Not bothering to see if there is a better way of doing things.
Itâs not caring whether there is a better way to do things. Things are good enough as they are. Why would they care? It works, right?
Also, many people do not know there are other things than Windows and MacOS.
@xahodo
A machine, to me, is something to work with and play with, and to see just how far I can push, said machine. I now have Gentoo to chroot into LFS, but I now have LFS booting and and downloading packages, but have to manually do the makefile.
Probably will take me 6 months just to get LFS to where I want it to be!!!
I just reloaded Peppermint Devuan into a 200G portion of my sandbox HDD, just so I have a simple, quick distro that does everything I want it to do, without fuss and just about instantly. I might split off another 100G and reload FunOS, since itâs very nearly the same and has a really good package management system. By not messing about under the hood, my stress level barely registers unless I have that fourth cup of coffee.
What is a sandbox hdd?
I liked Peppermint Devuan, for the same reasons.
My computer contains its original 500G HDD, which I use as the home of my daily driver distro. Itâs currently hosting Lubuntu. The 1T HDD is where I install and get acquainted with other distros, my âsandbox.â Sometimes I have to flush several partitions and start from scratchâOpen Suse and Pop!OS need the entire drive to themselves. Others use Calamares or a similar installer that allows distros to play together.
A more modern computer (less than 10yo!) would have enough capacity to install more drives. I think a SDD of about 100G might make a useful sandbox drive. But another computer doesnât seem to be in the budget these days.
In my current opinion, youâre correct. Better safe than sorry. 