WIndows culture vs Linux culture

Well, it’s hard to shut up about political views sometimes, so I accept people slipping through, if they don’t overexaggerate, including myself.

However, I don’t think anyone mentioned here offensive stuff like the other ones you mentioned. So in case you did not mean it as a general statement but instead as one rather specific to the situation, then please refrain from making it seem like anyone here was truly badly in those manners you mentioned.

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I almost always find myself, of likewise opinion @Akito, to your opinion, whatever it is - mate :smiley:

OSS is almost always invariably associated with “socialism” and - some quarters equate egalitarian societies of a “socialistic nature” (like universal healthcare) with STALIINIST / MAOIST “communism”… I’ve seen anti-OSS tirades accusing it of being Maoist or “red”…

They’re very different things (“communism” and “socailism”)… not all social democratic countries are “right” or perfect. Take Sweden for example, Australia and Sweden have simliar sized populations…

Australia went into virtual lockdown in mid/late March… We’ve had less than 100 deaths from Covid19… just over 7000 cases (and less than 1000 active cases currerntly)… Sweden didn’t “lockdown”, and almost decided “business as usual” - compare the numbers… they’re staggering…

Rank │ World                               │ Total Cases  │ New Cases ▲ │ Total Deaths
24   │ Sweden (SE)                         │       29,207 │       625 ▲ │        3,646
51   │ Australia (AU)                      │        7,019 │        30 ▲ │           98

Then you compare both Sweden and Australia with the USA, a country that HAS NO UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE - and the diferences are even more staggering… astounding… shockingly awful… morbidly fascinating…

Sweden is probably as “liberal” as Australia, and more “socially democratic” than us… and most of our mitigations have been down to state governments, and not the federal government (who are a bunch of neo-liberal nazis anyway - who treat refugees like scum),…

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Fair enough, but if we want to be strict about it, someone should have raised an objection some time ago, when the thread first wandered off-topic into a discussion about the metric system.

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I see nothing relevant on how either cultures has to do with operating a PC. I belong to both, and really see no need in this argument. I joined this site hoping I could help, in some small way, some user in trying to use Linux, not because it is better, but to show that either Windows or a Mac, is not the only way to run a PC. The politics of this discussion is just way too much for my feeble minded culture. Ya’ll have a good day, and please refrain from killing each other, covid-19 is doing a good job their.

As I don’t want to continue this discussion here, I will just respond to your post with:

Q.E.D.

That remains to be seen!!!

OMG you guys are killing me :laughing: Let’s face it. Some one of us is going to have the last word eventually, and the rest of us will just have to resign ourselves to that fact.

Generous and gracious guy that I am, I will bow out now.

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Ah @Akito & @jrmwalsh English Imperial units – well you can’t get more English than Isaac Newton born 1643 fellow of Trinity College and the second Lucasian Professor of Mathematics at the University of Cambridge. Oh dear – what went wrong - The newton became the standard unit of force in the Système international d’unités (SI), or International System of Units. 1N = 0.225lbf pounds force. :face_with_monocle:
Too much for the scientists at NASA due to left hand working with pounds force of thrust as the right hand was working in (SI) N Newtons so $125 million Mars Climate Orbiter crashed into the planet – Oooops. :shushing_face: Fake News, Fake News, Fake News. I still remember writing on drawings 16SWG – (Standard Wire Gauge) – 1/16” inch , 0.62” 1.6mm at the time of metrication in the UK. :face_with_monocle:
The USA could not deny UK engineers again when taking the World Land Speed record in their back yard - Fake News, Fake News, Fake News - when you hear that Sonic Boom it does not matter which unit of measurement is used. :boom: Now how much disinfectant did Chump say; should I inject, was it 5 fluid ounces or 5 millilitres? :smirk: :grinning: :joy: :crazy_face:

Not being a fan of agricultural machinery myself :tractor: – I prefer EU or UK V Twins; one wonders if you own one of those HDs made from Japanese and Chinese sourced parts or is it one of those modern ones made in India? I know just what you mean – was very impressed by an Italian mechanic near the Stella Alpina, :motorcycle: identifying that the oil filter thread based on his measurement of the internal minor diameter as 5/8” UNC. Hey we ALL (till 2010) use 1/4” Whitworth on camera mount. :camera:

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Culture is a word for the ‘way of life’ of groups of people, meaning the way they do things. …

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Not the Harley is old enough to have been made totally in the USA, but that is not why I bought it or ride it.
I am totally lost on measurements, I was at school when we changed from imperial to metric, then went into engineering and learned all about bsf and bsw whilst in a wire drawing company that used metric for rod arriving, wire gauges during the process to produce imperial measures at the end which were then coated in metric amounts of protection and sold in drums to make cables.
Not to mention weight, temperature…
Anyway back to subject. I still prefer Linux mint over Windows any day and my MacBook pro is on Linux…

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Hi.
I’m newly joined at IT’S FOSS.
I was clickbaited by my own experiences of MS vs Linux matters to open this thread for a look. Because that has appeal and is, IMO, far more fascinating a study than a yawny tangent discussion of political systems and a denigration of USA. (I’d insert just one tiny thought though: that it is the F.R is where the problem lies in that nation).
It makes for a feeling of being non-plussed.
But I’m happy to continue on this site to learn more about Linux matters.
Even if I now run with Akito’s suggestion to mute posts that go the way of the tangent.

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I wish we could have a technical discussion without some know nothing turning every topic into a political discussion or just a chance to badmouth America. Honestly I don’t give a damn about your opinion and truly wish you could, at least while you’re here, to stick with technical topics and keep your silly politics to yourself.

No need to attack anyone personal, just because you don’t share the same views.

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Nope… (0:40)

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LOL, I remember Britain showing the Australian Ad around 1970. " On the 14th of February 1966" was the tag line. It’s kinda always stuck in my head for some unknown reason? (along with ‘two and a quarter pots of jam weigh about a kilogram’)
For an unknown amount of time I switched between imperial and Metric measurements in just about everything except Miles and kilometers.
Since moving to USA, I have a little difficulty swapping but can still do machining in either although it takes a lot more careful thought to use metric nowadays. (and often a calculator)

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In the immortal words of cry baby McEnroe who was famous for rants at the Wimbledon umpires, coining the phrase: “You cannot be serious!” (Then those who could stomach it had to endure him for years on our BBC banging on and on and on about his past whilst commentating :face_vomiting: Barf Out) :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye: not serious folks

You cannot be serious:- please keep up the good work machining to the nearest 20microns, oops"0.79 thou" and keep a good stock of batteries for that hard pressed calculator :face_with_raised_eyebrow: Now let me see from A-B is 50km or 31miles120yards1foot11inches to the nearest 64th - I think - now wasn’t that easy - which would you use? It’s a no brainer for me - I have used both for many years and after retirement…
US gallons and Imp gallons; no way … Oh Dear :zipper_mouth_face:
Perhaps in your lifetime the USA might catch up with the rest of the planet and then be able to compete in true World FIA MotorSport on two and four wheels or even dare I say attempt to go faster than the speed of sound on two, four wheels or Supersonic commercial passenger aircraft without stealing from the Brits and others. Kinda sticks in the head, er sorry, throat dunnit…?


Do we like the advertisement for British engineering above? :wink:
Do we think that is technical enough - silly me :roll_eyes:
Well I think that is quite enough lighthearted fun from this old whinging pom. :crazy_face:
Oh go on then - those of us over 70 that are still alive after the Care Home Death Chamber scandal here in the UK are told by those pesky Ruskies at RT that what remains of our beloved NHS National Health Service that hasn’t already been given to USA inc is being actively discussed by our Performing Poodle’s people in secret behind closed doors. In response UK politicians are requesting that our INDEPENDENT REGULATOR should revoke the license of RT. :woozy_face:

@Andy2, one 70 to the other. As I recall, the Brits where none too happy when they were forced to convert from pounds and ounces to kg and ml. And of course, form city to city you still do miles and not km. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye: But wait, we here in the good old US of A are making progress. We did force our drunks :partying_face: to learn the metric system. It’s been over 20 years since I cold buy a 1/2 pint or fifth of booze. All hard liqueur in the USA is sold using the metric system. And us converting to metric in my life time. No way, unless half of the US get drunk from 500ml of booze. :laughing:

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Hey @easyt50 Howard, I was just nodding off when I noticed your post - great to hear from you again. :heartbeat: your post

The USA has seen sense – at last – kicking and yawling into the Modern Era – er; Sort of.
A bit of History for Y’all.
The United States system of units is based on the system in use in Britain prior to the introduction to the British imperial system of 1824. Both systems are derived from English units, a system which had evolved over the millennia before American independence, and which had its roots in Roman and Anglo-Saxon units.
The customary system was championed by the U.S.- Some advocates of the customary system saw the French Revolutionary, or metric, system as atheistic. The president of an Ohio auxiliary of the Institute wrote that the traditional units were “a just weight and a just measure, which alone are acceptable to the Lord.” His organization later went so far as to publish music for a song proclaiming "down with every ‘metric’ scheme.”
The U.S. government passed the Metric Conversion Act of 1975, which made the metric system “the preferred system of weights and measures for U.S. trade and commerce”.

However the Cling-Ons - For measuring length, the U.S. customary system uses the inch, foot, yard, and mile, which are the only four customary length measurements in everyday use. Still trying to find inch, foot, yard, and mile on my binary number driven calculator – thanks Alan Turing. :uk: Guess I will have to compile a spreadsheet for that? :face_with_monocle:

American Gov - NIST National Institute of Standards and Technology **
** Weights and Measures

To promote uniformity in national and international legal metrology laws, regulations, standards, test procedures, and enforcement practices so as to ensure traceability of measurements to the SI and to enhance consumer protection, foster fair competition, and facilitate economic growth and trade.

What in Hell’s name is this “SI”…? Your worst nightmare? OMG …lol :joy:
Those g……m French Fries. :wink:
The International System of Units (SI, abbreviated from the French Système international (d’unités)) :fr: is the modern form of the metric system. It is the only system of measurement with an official status in nearly every country in the world. It comprises a coherent system of units of measurement.

Please don’t start the old fool on the Bushel, peck, long and short tons – hundredweights! :upside_down_face:
Have Fun and Stay Safe - Time for a nap :sleeping: dream on zzzz…
recent photo - the return of… - Cheers :beers:


Hope nobody notices the pint measure :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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And to you Sir, :beers:, many happy returns.
I’m looking forward to my next visit to the ‘Old Lady of Thread Needle St.’ once the boarders are open again.

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I used to ‘measure’ things. Surprisingly, Harley has used many metric components and bolt heads since 1984 ‘Evo’ motors (actually inside engines so majority wouldn’t know). Biggest surprise to me, metric thread spokes while Honda were still using Whitworth thread spokes.
Oh, I’ve posted about it before, USA didn’t have any ‘universal’ national measurements (except troy ounce for gold and silver) until 1864 act of congress. That took another 20 years to be implemented even though it was based on Meter and Kilogram standards donated by France.
I’m still amazed by the stuff you learn as a motorcycle technician.

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